The only hate is coming from the left in the form of censoring views on campus, defunding the police, looting, rioting, voter fraud, forcing religious groups to provide abortion and recognize gay marriage, refusal to crack down on immigration, threatening justices of the court. A real libertarian supports religious freedom. You are a demented, bigot leftist. I lost relatives in the holocaust. Do not talk to me about religious bigotry. Gays are some of the most intolerant people I know. I am also a gay man but they do not speak for me
I agree. I would argue the old right, like Garett Garett, Rose Wilder Lane and Isabel Patterson, were probably the last of the truly classical liberals (libertarians). Most of their warnings for Americans sadly came true.
I also don't think any of the framers would recognize the left today as a derivation of their philosophical ideals; even the strongest supporters of government at the time: namely, Adams and Hamilton, would align themselves with today's libertarian party, or the Ted Cruz, Ron Paul wing of the republican party. It's quite strange, but the media today would call the framers "hard-right", "totalitarian," and warn the citizens about their "populism."
Today, the country is more like the Soviet Union, than the "sons of liberty"
This is so ridiculous. Certainly plenty of hate is coming from the "left" , but the "right" has simmered in hatred for decades; its just old news. The old Christian "moral majority" still hates, it just doesn't have the same power it once had. So it is generally more likely to express their hatred wrapped in euphemism. The fact you call someone a "demented, bigot leftist" yet don't even recognize your own hatred is kind of sadly ordinary for our times.
Unfortunately, even "religious freedom" has its limits, as no state should allow a cult to sacrifice children to their god. I hope your "libertarianism" doesn't make you that demented.
This individual posted a nasty tirade condemning middle America and its values and traditions. The left preaches tolerance but advocates killing justices of the court, disinvesting in business that do business with Israel, wants to force religious groups to sanction abortion and gay marriage, defund the police, oppose voter ID laws, immigration enforcement, fracking. The media, academy are bastions of intolerance toward those who do not want to live their lives according to their bible The New York Times editorial page and the ACLU. I am not part of the moral majority but I am concerned about the decrepit state of American culture, the family and the values that nurture a civil society. I agree that every freedom has it's limits and needs to be tempered with restraint and common sense but I live in New York that has surrendered in the war against violent criminals, that refuses to do anything about the anti-semitism prevalent in our city or the unsafeness of our schools. Gun owners are demonized, unions are let off the hook for the rotten education their members provide. I believe in morality and I am especially sensitive to attacks on religion by leftists as I lost relatives in the Holocaust and religious people are still being persecuted all over the world. I am a traditionalist not so much a libertarian and although imperfect I try to live by the tenets of my religion and respect the rights of others to do so but I will not remain quiet when the left talks about tolerance and acts in ways contrary to their professed tolerance of others.
You are not alone in your thoughts snd opinion. The easily identifiable trolls posting anti white / anti religion garbage in this comment section are tiresome and a bit stupid.
Whites were the first rioters and looters (kkk domestic terrorists). Remember "red summer" wherein hundreds of Blacks were massacred across the South by white racists? And black owned buisneeses, homes, and churches were destroyed. White racist authoritarianism (Jim Crow) was hell! Mass graves of Black victims of the Greenwood massacre was recently discovered in Tulsa, Oklahoma. The massare of 300 black residents there was covered up by whites for 75 years.
But we do navigate using the rear view mirror. When switching lanes, it’s valuable to look in the rear view mirror. And it’s generally valuable to look behind us to our blind spot. It can help prevent accidents. So… we probably should consider history when navigating our future.
Forcing someone to pay for the crimes of someone else is a dangerous game of historical culpability. How far should we extend this game?
Should the 15M whites enslaved by the ottoman empire demand reparations from their descendants? Should the South Koreans demand that Japanese pay for their crimes? Should Italy pay reparations to the rest of Europe for conquering them? Should the Mongolians pay reparations for conquering and enslaving half the known world? Should the victims of a Cebuano King, who had thousands of concubines, require reparations for slavery? Should the victims of lunatic Kings and queens be permitted to apply for reparations? Should the victims of Vikings be entitled to reparations? Should we demand reparations from the descendants of black southern slave owners (there were more than a few)? Should we demand that Spain pay reparations for colonizing the Philippines and most of the America's 400 years ago?
Is that really justice?
True justice requires recognizing that people are individuals, not groups. We are born free, with the will to choose our destiny, not shackled by the crimes of an ancestor. Stealing my labor, which is what reparations means, on the basis of some historical wrong is a massive injustice because I have not committed any crime.
The only hate is coming from the left in the form of censoring views on campus, defunding the police, looting, rioting, voter fraud, forcing religious groups to provide abortion and recognize gay marriage, refusal to crack down on immigration, threatening justices of the court. A real libertarian supports religious freedom. You are a demented, bigot leftist. I lost relatives in the holocaust. Do not talk to me about religious bigotry. Gays are some of the most intolerant people I know. I am also a gay man but they do not speak for me
I agree. I would argue the old right, like Garett Garett, Rose Wilder Lane and Isabel Patterson, were probably the last of the truly classical liberals (libertarians). Most of their warnings for Americans sadly came true.
I also don't think any of the framers would recognize the left today as a derivation of their philosophical ideals; even the strongest supporters of government at the time: namely, Adams and Hamilton, would align themselves with today's libertarian party, or the Ted Cruz, Ron Paul wing of the republican party. It's quite strange, but the media today would call the framers "hard-right", "totalitarian," and warn the citizens about their "populism."
Today, the country is more like the Soviet Union, than the "sons of liberty"
This is so ridiculous. Certainly plenty of hate is coming from the "left" , but the "right" has simmered in hatred for decades; its just old news. The old Christian "moral majority" still hates, it just doesn't have the same power it once had. So it is generally more likely to express their hatred wrapped in euphemism. The fact you call someone a "demented, bigot leftist" yet don't even recognize your own hatred is kind of sadly ordinary for our times.
Unfortunately, even "religious freedom" has its limits, as no state should allow a cult to sacrifice children to their god. I hope your "libertarianism" doesn't make you that demented.
This individual posted a nasty tirade condemning middle America and its values and traditions. The left preaches tolerance but advocates killing justices of the court, disinvesting in business that do business with Israel, wants to force religious groups to sanction abortion and gay marriage, defund the police, oppose voter ID laws, immigration enforcement, fracking. The media, academy are bastions of intolerance toward those who do not want to live their lives according to their bible The New York Times editorial page and the ACLU. I am not part of the moral majority but I am concerned about the decrepit state of American culture, the family and the values that nurture a civil society. I agree that every freedom has it's limits and needs to be tempered with restraint and common sense but I live in New York that has surrendered in the war against violent criminals, that refuses to do anything about the anti-semitism prevalent in our city or the unsafeness of our schools. Gun owners are demonized, unions are let off the hook for the rotten education their members provide. I believe in morality and I am especially sensitive to attacks on religion by leftists as I lost relatives in the Holocaust and religious people are still being persecuted all over the world. I am a traditionalist not so much a libertarian and although imperfect I try to live by the tenets of my religion and respect the rights of others to do so but I will not remain quiet when the left talks about tolerance and acts in ways contrary to their professed tolerance of others.
You are not alone in your thoughts snd opinion. The easily identifiable trolls posting anti white / anti religion garbage in this comment section are tiresome and a bit stupid.
I agree with many of your points.
Whites were the first rioters and looters (kkk domestic terrorists). Remember "red summer" wherein hundreds of Blacks were massacred across the South by white racists? And black owned buisneeses, homes, and churches were destroyed. White racist authoritarianism (Jim Crow) was hell! Mass graves of Black victims of the Greenwood massacre was recently discovered in Tulsa, Oklahoma. The massare of 300 black residents there was covered up by whites for 75 years.
Can’t comment on the history you’re talking about but I will say this “if you navigate by looking at the rearview mirror, that’s where you’re going”.
But we do navigate using the rear view mirror. When switching lanes, it’s valuable to look in the rear view mirror. And it’s generally valuable to look behind us to our blind spot. It can help prevent accidents. So… we probably should consider history when navigating our future.
Meh. Maybe you navigate by looking in the rear view mirror but its a far better strategy to look out the front windshield.
That’s why the drivers seat faces forward and not backwards.
Whites should pay trillions in reparations to blacks immediately.
Forcing someone to pay for the crimes of someone else is a dangerous game of historical culpability. How far should we extend this game?
Should the 15M whites enslaved by the ottoman empire demand reparations from their descendants? Should the South Koreans demand that Japanese pay for their crimes? Should Italy pay reparations to the rest of Europe for conquering them? Should the Mongolians pay reparations for conquering and enslaving half the known world? Should the victims of a Cebuano King, who had thousands of concubines, require reparations for slavery? Should the victims of lunatic Kings and queens be permitted to apply for reparations? Should the victims of Vikings be entitled to reparations? Should we demand reparations from the descendants of black southern slave owners (there were more than a few)? Should we demand that Spain pay reparations for colonizing the Philippines and most of the America's 400 years ago?
Is that really justice?
True justice requires recognizing that people are individuals, not groups. We are born free, with the will to choose our destiny, not shackled by the crimes of an ancestor. Stealing my labor, which is what reparations means, on the basis of some historical wrong is a massive injustice because I have not committed any crime.
Just because you use the words white and black like they mean something doesn’t mean they actually do. I stand with kmele ✌️
Are you addressing that to just me and not everyone else here who frequently use the terms white or black?
Throwing random thoughts into the wind and seein what comes back. Problem is it’s always you 😂😂
Juuuust kidding it’s not a problem 😉
Good for you. Don’t you detest those who, for a power trip, take on somebody else’s little spat, fight it, unrequested and un necessary?
I do wish it was only a battle left vs right these days. There’s a top-down fish to fry!