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Jardin read the US Constitution. It was designed to LIMIT the power of the Federal Gov. Ben Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ...and will soon lose both. Nothing is free, there only trade offs.

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I wish there had been a Bill of Responsibilities along with the Bill of Rights. The F.F.s just assumed everyone knew what those were. What did they know. Too "enlightened"! Probably would have made the Constitution even more systemically racist (satirical).

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It's allocation of limited resources. The more taxes you take for the undeserving and irresponsible, the less you have for police and those that really need them.

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The "state" only exists as a delegation from the people. In the absence of popular consent, the state vanishes - starved of resources - or becomes overtly tyrannical. So the idea that the state can refer to citizens as "its", i.e., belonging to it, gets things precisely backwards. The state ought to do what the people want from it, insofar as a consensus can be determined. No more, no less.

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It's 50%+1 and it's not that way. It's coalitions and compromise. Few "choose" to be ill, but name me a national healthcare system that covers everything for everyone all the time like those for it make it out to be. There are always restrictions and Medicare for all is quite restrictive in many areas. CMS determines care, not really you & your MD. It disincentives' self-responsibility. Does anyone ever talk about non-compliance? Does everyone always deserve the same? I have no problem paying taxes for safety (police/military) & maintenance. I object to what seems like forced charity for some of the rest. Thanks for your thoughts.

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i could go on for hours answering this. I will just say I worked in healthcare for over 40 years. Is the bad heart genetic or an unlucky roll of the dice? Was it caused by bad habits, i.e. drugs, diet, smoking? Is the person compliant with the changes they need to make, i.e. diet, smoking, medications, exercise? When do we stop paying for people's irresponsibility? It's a slippery slope which a national system doesn't cure and only divorces us from cost awareness. Taken to its nth degree, the government should determine & enforce everyone's diet, exercise regime, life style. Homogeny would be needed! Sounds like a sci-fi movie. Was the accident due to their or someone else's negligence? Is that person insured medically, auto insurance, worker's comp or get some type of legal restitution? Let's talk tort reform. No, can't, the lawyers may be reading this.

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Maybe someone else can explain better.

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P J ORourke said: “If you think health care is expensive now, wait ‘til it’s free”

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