OTOH, Trump does say some really stupid shit. And I still prefer him to Biden (a low bar).
What do I conclude:
John has flaws, just like the rest of us. Take what John says about Trump with a grain of salt, continue to value his other immense contributions to the conversation, and move on.
move on? What if someone on the right, like Chris Rufo said that “the leftist ideology needs to be stopped and Biden has enacted it across the federal gov't. Someone must kill him because he can't be elected again.” You think people or mainstream media would move on?
I do believe people have freedom of speech. However, there is a line at which such speech should have consequences. If John was a conservative and said this about Biden, he would lose his job and be publicly shamed. There should be consequences to what John has said. In this political climate and the precipice at which this expereiment stands.... his University should act.... but we all know that wont happen
Agreed completely about how the left would respond. But IN THIS CASE, I don't see any strategic value in playing tit-for-tat. John's said what he's going to say, and I don't see any value in attempting to drive him away, or make vague threats of "cancellation". TGS is stronger with him than without him, and that's where the subject has to end.
He would do just as well, perhaps even better, with a more intellectually honest sparring partner. John will still be his friend, but he ought not sully the integrity of TGS with his presence any longer.
This is not a tit-for-tat situation. If there was an academic on the right that publicly stated he wished that someone would kill Biden (or any other elected official); and also admitted that he has said this in private, I think the proper course would be for that University at a bare minimum investigate and at a bare minimum reprimand that person. These academic elites are in a position of power and influence. In case you have not noticed, our gov’t institutions are at a crossroads. Those academics advocating for political violence should be cautioned about escalating this country down this path.
Its not even funny how blind the elite academics on the left are to the situation. John and others claim that Trump must be stopped at all costs because he will destroy our democratic institutions. Well, guess what, Trump was removed from office and the institutions survived. Now, in order to keep Trump from becoming president, the left is willing to destroy those very institutions they are claiming Trump will destroy if he becomes president.
If John and others like him are willing to bend the law and even wish that someone would kill a political opponent, why should we believe them when they say there were no election problems in 2020. They are so desperate that I think John and many on the left would be ok with rigging this current election if it meant Trump would lose. Rigging an election is easier than killing a former president.
As long as the left and academic elites on the left continue to espouse actions that actually do threaten our democracy, they should be called out for it and argued against…John has been talking like this for a long time now. I am not trying to run him off the show. There are some points and opintions that i value greatly from John. But his words and opinions are way out of whack in this front.
His words were along the lines of “I wish, well not me but someone would just…” and then he trailed off. I and many others knew what he was about to say but he stopped himself. It’s brief and I don’t even think Glenn caught… but many of us did. I will have to listen again to see if they deleted it. I don’t think Glenn would delete without mentioning he did that. Either they did it because they don’t want to continue it to be aired… or you tube forced them to edit or they would remove the episode. They have given that ultimatum to Glenn before.
I too was bothered by John's comment.
OTOH, Trump does say some really stupid shit. And I still prefer him to Biden (a low bar).
What do I conclude:
John has flaws, just like the rest of us. Take what John says about Trump with a grain of salt, continue to value his other immense contributions to the conversation, and move on.
move on? What if someone on the right, like Chris Rufo said that “the leftist ideology needs to be stopped and Biden has enacted it across the federal gov't. Someone must kill him because he can't be elected again.” You think people or mainstream media would move on?
I do believe people have freedom of speech. However, there is a line at which such speech should have consequences. If John was a conservative and said this about Biden, he would lose his job and be publicly shamed. There should be consequences to what John has said. In this political climate and the precipice at which this expereiment stands.... his University should act.... but we all know that wont happen
Agreed completely about how the left would respond. But IN THIS CASE, I don't see any strategic value in playing tit-for-tat. John's said what he's going to say, and I don't see any value in attempting to drive him away, or make vague threats of "cancellation". TGS is stronger with him than without him, and that's where the subject has to end.
TGS is great on its own merits.
He would do just as well, perhaps even better, with a more intellectually honest sparring partner. John will still be his friend, but he ought not sully the integrity of TGS with his presence any longer.
This is not a tit-for-tat situation. If there was an academic on the right that publicly stated he wished that someone would kill Biden (or any other elected official); and also admitted that he has said this in private, I think the proper course would be for that University at a bare minimum investigate and at a bare minimum reprimand that person. These academic elites are in a position of power and influence. In case you have not noticed, our gov’t institutions are at a crossroads. Those academics advocating for political violence should be cautioned about escalating this country down this path.
Its not even funny how blind the elite academics on the left are to the situation. John and others claim that Trump must be stopped at all costs because he will destroy our democratic institutions. Well, guess what, Trump was removed from office and the institutions survived. Now, in order to keep Trump from becoming president, the left is willing to destroy those very institutions they are claiming Trump will destroy if he becomes president.
If John and others like him are willing to bend the law and even wish that someone would kill a political opponent, why should we believe them when they say there were no election problems in 2020. They are so desperate that I think John and many on the left would be ok with rigging this current election if it meant Trump would lose. Rigging an election is easier than killing a former president.
As long as the left and academic elites on the left continue to espouse actions that actually do threaten our democracy, they should be called out for it and argued against…John has been talking like this for a long time now. I am not trying to run him off the show. There are some points and opintions that i value greatly from John. But his words and opinions are way out of whack in this front.
His words were along the lines of “I wish, well not me but someone would just…” and then he trailed off. I and many others knew what he was about to say but he stopped himself. It’s brief and I don’t even think Glenn caught… but many of us did. I will have to listen again to see if they deleted it. I don’t think Glenn would delete without mentioning he did that. Either they did it because they don’t want to continue it to be aired… or you tube forced them to edit or they would remove the episode. They have given that ultimatum to Glenn before.
https://open.substack.com/pub/glennloury/p/did-john-really-say-what-i-think?r=4eas3&utm_medium=ios