Besides the troubling assassination remarks, John has also has advanced the "they wanted to overturn an election" argument. Glen pushes back, of course. To overturn democracy the bully pulpit is not enough. You need the instruments of power behind you, and for an attempt to be worthy of note, you need at least some fraction of them.
What actually happened was a riot, true, that fizzed out, also true. As a new citizen observing, I was supremely unimpressed - no threat to democracy from this bunch, I thought.
It is also true if that if Trump felt the 'deep state', the elite class, actively worked against him, he was correct. Obviously. John's desire that he be taken out is not unique - many actually expected the deep state to do just that - I have encountered this argument in person.
"And so" (to use a John-ism) it is not enough to "want" things, as if we even know what Trump expected or wanted to happen as far as the riot is concerned. The absurd overreaction from the left is that this actually was a close call. Now that's what I call undermining faith in institutions.
It is as if I jumped off a cliff waving my arms, and the response was: "Oh my God, he wanted to fly and he almost got away with breaking the laws of nature".
I say this as someone who has voted only once in this country, and it was against Trump (now I am walking away from the whole mess).
I was put off by the same things that made everyone else wonder how you got a presidential candidate like this. I think I understand things better now in that he filled a void carved out by elites. I also think it possible to concede that he in some areas confronted problems more honestly than possible inside the hot air balloon that the collective left has become. So a not uncommon take in these forums.
Besides the troubling assassination remarks, John has also has advanced the "they wanted to overturn an election" argument. Glen pushes back, of course. To overturn democracy the bully pulpit is not enough. You need the instruments of power behind you, and for an attempt to be worthy of note, you need at least some fraction of them.
What actually happened was a riot, true, that fizzed out, also true. As a new citizen observing, I was supremely unimpressed - no threat to democracy from this bunch, I thought.
It is also true if that if Trump felt the 'deep state', the elite class, actively worked against him, he was correct. Obviously. John's desire that he be taken out is not unique - many actually expected the deep state to do just that - I have encountered this argument in person.
"And so" (to use a John-ism) it is not enough to "want" things, as if we even know what Trump expected or wanted to happen as far as the riot is concerned. The absurd overreaction from the left is that this actually was a close call. Now that's what I call undermining faith in institutions.
It is as if I jumped off a cliff waving my arms, and the response was: "Oh my God, he wanted to fly and he almost got away with breaking the laws of nature".
I say this as someone who has voted only once in this country, and it was against Trump (now I am walking away from the whole mess).
I was put off by the same things that made everyone else wonder how you got a presidential candidate like this. I think I understand things better now in that he filled a void carved out by elites. I also think it possible to concede that he in some areas confronted problems more honestly than possible inside the hot air balloon that the collective left has become. So a not uncommon take in these forums.
Thanks! We are all attempting to get a handle on things and need all the help we can get.