I have to say I think this is the first time I have strongly disagreed with Glenn's conclusions. it's not due to the polling numbers, inflated now but nothing surprising, but it's due to the fact that on October 7th, relative morality ended.. at least for me.
The comparison to Hiroshima does not work for me---and here is why. October 7th was personal and barbaric whereas Israel's response is calculated and strategic. That matters here.
On. October 7 evil entered Israel, then proceeded to personally and jubiliantly rape, brutalize, and dismember innocent Israelis. Israel's strategic response, after warning Palestinians to flee, was to clear the way so they could get to the tunnels. There's no moral equivalency here.
On one side you say Israel has a right too defend itself but on another you add "up to a point." Further, "the point' gets to be determined by Hamas and their brilliant PR campaign that got even you, Glenn, to point the finger in the wrong dimension.
So your ultimate conclusion is that Israel does not have a right to self defend. Period.
Further, a ceasefire means Israeli defense effectiveness is predicatedad on Hamas" brilliant PR campaign designed to keep the finger pointed at Israel, the oppressor.
John spoke the truth when he said "Hamas can't do that again, under no sense of morality, under no sense of the evolution of the human species."
Yes, the situation in Gaza is horrific and unacceptable. Who is responsible for that? The brutal fact that Gazans have no place to go isn't on Israel. It's own neighbors refuse them entry but somehow Israel is solely responsible for their post October 7 reality? Glenn, man, c'mon!!
Yeah. I have visceral objections (even before these rational and well-articulated ones) to the comparison. First of all, nuking a city is nothing like targeting specific military targets deliberated and tragically embedded in civilian areas. Second, to compare civilian casualties of <1% of an attacked area to 40% of an attacked area is to flirt with the false line that "Israel is committing genocide."
I have to say I think this is the first time I have strongly disagreed with Glenn's conclusions. it's not due to the polling numbers, inflated now but nothing surprising, but it's due to the fact that on October 7th, relative morality ended.. at least for me.
The comparison to Hiroshima does not work for me---and here is why. October 7th was personal and barbaric whereas Israel's response is calculated and strategic. That matters here.
On. October 7 evil entered Israel, then proceeded to personally and jubiliantly rape, brutalize, and dismember innocent Israelis. Israel's strategic response, after warning Palestinians to flee, was to clear the way so they could get to the tunnels. There's no moral equivalency here.
On one side you say Israel has a right too defend itself but on another you add "up to a point." Further, "the point' gets to be determined by Hamas and their brilliant PR campaign that got even you, Glenn, to point the finger in the wrong dimension.
So your ultimate conclusion is that Israel does not have a right to self defend. Period.
Further, a ceasefire means Israeli defense effectiveness is predicatedad on Hamas" brilliant PR campaign designed to keep the finger pointed at Israel, the oppressor.
John spoke the truth when he said "Hamas can't do that again, under no sense of morality, under no sense of the evolution of the human species."
Yes, the situation in Gaza is horrific and unacceptable. Who is responsible for that? The brutal fact that Gazans have no place to go isn't on Israel. It's own neighbors refuse them entry but somehow Israel is solely responsible for their post October 7 reality? Glenn, man, c'mon!!
Yeah. I have visceral objections (even before these rational and well-articulated ones) to the comparison. First of all, nuking a city is nothing like targeting specific military targets deliberated and tragically embedded in civilian areas. Second, to compare civilian casualties of <1% of an attacked area to 40% of an attacked area is to flirt with the false line that "Israel is committing genocide."
great point Jon