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Your first paragraph perfectly encapsulates my reaction when Glenn said "people are trying to win elections." No doubt, but we're not talking about tactics during a campaign. It's certainly fair to question Trump's commitment to democracy when he says (as he did in 2016) that he'd respect the election outcome *if he wins.* As for 2020, we're spoiled for choice, but I think his chat with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger is a good representative example. Either I'm missing something, or Glenn is, I don't know.

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The objective data about Georgia is not clear to me. Now, I am willing to listen to facts that others submit. My mind is not closed. However, I have never read a reasonable explanation of the video of ballots that were taken from under tables after election staff were sent home because of a plumbing problem. To my knowledge, there never has been a rigorous review of events about this, nor about vote count. "2,000 Mules," raises other questions. Thus, I think the election result for Georgia should not have been certified. And, I am perfectly willing to accept the conclusion that Trump lost in this state ---if the objective data and numbers support this.

Trump's commitment to democracy? I think he is -- if the election is conducted in a fair manner. In what other arena has Trump acted as a dictator? He certainly did not ignore Congressional restraints to build the wall without regard to appropriations.

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