Re: redefining what a woman/man is. What I am curious about is what prompted this whole discussion in the first place. We always had terms to describe people who felt like they were born in the wrong body and how they presented themselves in society (transsexual and transvestism.) So why the change and why now? I think there might be a clue in the other phrases that have been redefined which have been thrown around with this discussion such as transgender healthcare. Transgender healthcare now seems to mean “medical transitioning” aka - affirming healthcare. At the federal government level, there were changes made to anti discrimination laws pertaining to transgenders, et all, that mandate medical transition coverage for all healthcare insurance companies that receive federal funding. Basically requiring insurance companies to pay for medical transition. However, private insurance companies and self funded plans that do not receive federal funding are not required to cover medical transitions. I wonder if the push to redefine what a man/woman is, has something to do with getting the rest of the insurance companies to pay for transgender transitioning? If they redefine woman to mean anyone who feels like a woman, then maybe that changes what “medically necessary” means, and therefore make all insurance plans cover all medical treatments to support becoming a women.?
If that is the case, is this entire movement just a tactic to get medical transitioning paid for by insurance companies? Is it really all about the money?
Or is there another reason I’m just not aware of? Why change the meaning of man/woman and why now?
Would love to get thoughts from the hosts and group.
Some states also mandate coverage of "gender affirmative care."
The main thing I see are media presentations and self-presentations of trans-identified male activists who exhibit very narcissistic behaviors on a continuous basis. I think these people probably want the things that narcissists always want, which includes everything, but especially the things that the narcissists were denied when they demanded to have them. Heterosexual men with narcissistic personality disorder have been shown by research to be misogynistic, and the research subjects admitted to feeling the most hatred for heterosexual women, above all other demographics. I think their hatred comes from envy, which is a dominant feeling among narcissists. They feel cheated if there is anything they can't have.
Not all trans people are exhibitionistic or histrionic. They don't all try to look and act like cartoons of the opposite sex, but it certainly appears to be the case that many of the trans-identified activists have these characteristics. And I don't hear many other trans-identified people speaking out against the aggressive narcissistic behaviors we see in trans activists and athletes featured on media.
I have observed the same types of things and can see your point but I really think there is something more coordinated going on.
There is big money supporting the trans movement and I think they have managed to change a lot of laws to include transgender people but they seem to have fallen short in some areas. An EASY way to get everything they want is to just redefine the words “women and men” to include trans-women and trans-men. If they can do that, than all laws that women have worked so hard to get over the years will also apply to trans-women. They won’t have to go through the trouble of trying to get a bunch of new laws passed. (And all trans women will have the same rights as men, although I’m not sure of special laws that apply to only men, except maybe for insurance purposes.)
I was listening to a discussion the other day about why they decided to redefine marriage to include same sex partners instead of just legalizing Civil Union for same sex couples. It was because of all of the legal rights that go along with the word marriage. I think it would have been much easier to get Civil Unions passed but they wanted all the other privileges.
Re: redefining what a woman/man is. What I am curious about is what prompted this whole discussion in the first place. We always had terms to describe people who felt like they were born in the wrong body and how they presented themselves in society (transsexual and transvestism.) So why the change and why now? I think there might be a clue in the other phrases that have been redefined which have been thrown around with this discussion such as transgender healthcare. Transgender healthcare now seems to mean “medical transitioning” aka - affirming healthcare. At the federal government level, there were changes made to anti discrimination laws pertaining to transgenders, et all, that mandate medical transition coverage for all healthcare insurance companies that receive federal funding. Basically requiring insurance companies to pay for medical transition. However, private insurance companies and self funded plans that do not receive federal funding are not required to cover medical transitions. I wonder if the push to redefine what a man/woman is, has something to do with getting the rest of the insurance companies to pay for transgender transitioning? If they redefine woman to mean anyone who feels like a woman, then maybe that changes what “medically necessary” means, and therefore make all insurance plans cover all medical treatments to support becoming a women.?
If that is the case, is this entire movement just a tactic to get medical transitioning paid for by insurance companies? Is it really all about the money?
Or is there another reason I’m just not aware of? Why change the meaning of man/woman and why now?
Would love to get thoughts from the hosts and group.
Some states also mandate coverage of "gender affirmative care."
The main thing I see are media presentations and self-presentations of trans-identified male activists who exhibit very narcissistic behaviors on a continuous basis. I think these people probably want the things that narcissists always want, which includes everything, but especially the things that the narcissists were denied when they demanded to have them. Heterosexual men with narcissistic personality disorder have been shown by research to be misogynistic, and the research subjects admitted to feeling the most hatred for heterosexual women, above all other demographics. I think their hatred comes from envy, which is a dominant feeling among narcissists. They feel cheated if there is anything they can't have.
Not all trans people are exhibitionistic or histrionic. They don't all try to look and act like cartoons of the opposite sex, but it certainly appears to be the case that many of the trans-identified activists have these characteristics. And I don't hear many other trans-identified people speaking out against the aggressive narcissistic behaviors we see in trans activists and athletes featured on media.
I have observed the same types of things and can see your point but I really think there is something more coordinated going on.
There is big money supporting the trans movement and I think they have managed to change a lot of laws to include transgender people but they seem to have fallen short in some areas. An EASY way to get everything they want is to just redefine the words “women and men” to include trans-women and trans-men. If they can do that, than all laws that women have worked so hard to get over the years will also apply to trans-women. They won’t have to go through the trouble of trying to get a bunch of new laws passed. (And all trans women will have the same rights as men, although I’m not sure of special laws that apply to only men, except maybe for insurance purposes.)
I was listening to a discussion the other day about why they decided to redefine marriage to include same sex partners instead of just legalizing Civil Union for same sex couples. It was because of all of the legal rights that go along with the word marriage. I think it would have been much easier to get Civil Unions passed but they wanted all the other privileges.
Anyway, that is what I suspect is going on.