I'm an old white male. I must ask: When you look at black culture, is there even one thing that would make a white person want to join it? 70% of blacks are bastards. Have you listened to the words of (c)rap music? Is your life's goal to grow up and be a banger? Do you want to live in a neighborhood and listen to gun fire all night (and day)? If you are successful in school, do you want to be shunned because "You ain't black enough!". Do you want to spend your life on government handouts? Do you want to be admitted to college because you're black, assume astornimical debt and then bomb out? Or, as bad, graduate on a quota then be given a title and a broom at your new woke company?
Every one who wants even one of the above points in your life, raise your hand!
Black people have a lot of culture though, and are lots of fun to be around. Otherwise many poor and rural whites in this country don't have cult-ure so much as they're part of a suicidal death CULT! The GOP doesn't even have any cities for all they like pointing fingers at Democratic ones. What? Jacksonville? Fort Worth, Texas?!? Those are Republicans' "biggest" in the country—but who in the entire world has ever heard of anything or anyone coming from either of those places! And what is it the European colonialists(irony they so often fled Europe for the "less developed" world) said about unwashed uncivilized uncultured backwards savage barbarians who have no cities again!? Oh oops; I think I just said it! That's messed up to be sure, but then it's the white supremacist viewpoint! Irony though is that white supremacy so often it's the losers among white people subscribe to, as well that white supremacy KILLS white people. ESPECIALLY the poor and rural whites! W.E.B. DuBois, MLK, & LBJ all explained it. And from Jefferson Davis to Adolf Hitler to Donald Trump, those evil men all did it! Look at that 2020 Census for a dozen years of the Tea Party & Birtherist & Trump & QAnon crazies; the more power extremist Republicans get, the more they kill their own base! First & only Census in 250 years of US history that whites DE-populated! Yet based on the 7 decades prior to 2010, the white population should have increased by OVER 10 million at minimum, with the average increase over those 70 years being OVER 15 million whites per decade!!! But then, the Wall Street Journal front page headline didn't read "Rural America is the New Inner City" for no reason! Nor is Red State life expectancy YEARS(PLURAL!) worse than the Blue States for no reason either! Y'all like throwing stones, but your kind live in glass houses. & old white men are the most apt to die of heat stroke in those what with the warming climate! And no people in all of American history have ever been as "downwardly mobile" as Trump supporters. Ex: the African American story in this country is one of continual rise. Maybe a lot lower start(they were slaves!), but it's rise nonetheless. Similar for immigrants(FYI immigration from 2010-2020 was the lowest decade we've had in over 50 years, which puts it among the lowest in our history!). Trumpers though their daddies & granddaddies had it better than them. For them the American Dream is DEAD!
PS: Biden won 71% of US GDP by county vs. Trump only got 29%! Who are the "welfare queens" again(as Reagan called 'em) not pulling their own weight!? GOP base are government check cashers! As far as blacks being born out of wedlock, at least black people are having babies! 2016 was the 1st year that white deaths exceeded white births, & now after just 4 years of Trump with the lowest white birth rate in history(including our worst economic crises), it's over 1000 fewer white babies born per day than the over 5000 white Americans that are dying per day! White DE-population! Kicked into high gear under Trump!!! Again too; problem concentrated among the Trump whites vs. the anti-Trump whites are quite immune. "Rural America is the New Inner City" remember? Meanwhile suburbs fled the GOP in droves in 2020, same as 2018, & Biden won 171 out of 202 counties in the country with a Whole Foods! Or "Whole Paycheck" to many. College educated whites voted 40 points more for Biden than non-college whites. It's 2021 son; not 1971! Your old white male Booomer politics are outta touch & 50 years outta time! Whites are 2.6 times more suicidal than blacks today & 1.5 times more likely to die of drug overdoses! And those are Top 10 causes of death in the country with these record breaking skyrocketed "deaths of despair"! Which puts "White America", were it a nation, in the worst 15 most suicidal countries worldwide(half of which are in Africa btw), & "White America" takes the junkie narcotic cake for the most drug abusing! But for those stats are for whites in general, it's not all whites either; it's the Trumpers! You rednecks sold your souls to Satan for Monster Truck rally tickets! And the reason Trump lost is cause Americans, including half of white Americans, don't wanna be like you! The orange troll's the absolute disgrace of the white race & men! Maybe it's why Trump's margin with white men from 2016 to 2020 got cut by 43%! Seriously; how does the Republican Party move forward in the 2020s getting only half of the white vote!?!? Especially when the GOP's whites are dying vs. Democratic ones are growing in number(ex: college educated, young, Millennials now the biggest generation with Gen. Z becoming voters behind them). You RINOS(all Republicans these days as that WAS the party of anti-Know-Nothing anti-racist 1860 Campaign Slogan "Vote Yourself A Farm!" later "Act to Encourage Immigration" Abraham Lincoln!) gone white supremacist nationalist socialists are dinosaurs doomed to extinction! For most all wars & revolutions in human history weren't because of Marxism, including WW1, WW2, & our most horrific Civil War, the "Cold" War has been over now almost as long as it lasted. Reagan was once enormously popular, but no Republican President has first come to power now by popular election since the 1980s! HW Bush the last. Here in the early 2020s though, the majority of Americans(median age 38) aren't old enough to have voted before the Year 2000, let alone 1990! Oh, and 20 years ago, it was only 40% of Republicans were over 50. Today it's over 60% of GOPers have hit the Big 5-0! Your party is DYING! From both a figurative political sense AND in the literal one!
Your ethnocentrism is showing. "White" people have all sorts of culture. It comes from all over the world and mixes in with other cultural artifacts. Maybe get outside of your urban bubble sometime. Travel the "blue" highways a bit and actually get out of your car and meet some people. Of course, you can't be condescending or denigrating. You might also want to listen to what people are actually saying rather than filtering it through your preconceptions.
Your partisanship is blinding you and undermining Any points you may be trying to make.
To state that “poor rural whites don’t have a culture” is so profoundly wrong and ignorant and stereotypical that is really difficult to take you in any way seriously. What would you say if we substituted “rural white” for “urban black.” I feel confident you’d have a real problem with that, probably call it racist, and launch into a tirade or some sort. But having spent plenty of time in both environments personally, I know your statement is as wrongheaded and misguided as my hypothetical substitution sentence.
Is this an opinion formed out of real world experience or through the lens of conservative media? It would be just as disingenuous to paint a picture of white America by describing a trailer park in Appalachia and pretending it describes white culture.
Glenn is often accused of attracting a white audience who wants to hear him disparage black America and confirm their racism. I believe posts like yours only contribute to that notion. Now that I think about it, it seems so stereotypical that I wonder if you aren't trying to discredit Glenn.
People don't listen to Glenn "to hear him disparage black America". Ever since I was young - decades and decades ago - I was curious as to why black America was so dysfunctional. I have read everything I can to try to understand what is going on and I think many people feel this way as well. I am willing to listen to anyone who who can explain the pathologies but, I will not accept the excuses for bad behavior when every other ethnicity behaves otherwise. I have developed my theories about the dysfunctions - there's enough blame to go around including poorly crafted gov't policies a la The Great Society handouts, affirmative actions, etc. etc. But I can't help but come around to simple 'personal responsibility' and that blacks have to own some part of this dysfunction themselves as well.
I have long felt in a subdued, suppressed, vague sort of way (only rarely given form by what I said), what listening to learned, outspoken black thinkers like Shelby Steele, Robert Woodson, Kmele Foster, John McWhorter, GLENN, and more, have liberated, made crystal clear - that "The Great Society handouts, affirmative actions, etc" have really taken us down a twisted, thorny path. That includes what has followed, to date, to keep the myth of their goodness going, to keep them in place and expand upon them.
My husband is a white man who is not a racist - married me (a tribal member), for example. Yesterday, he was scrolling through social somewhere and caught an Instagram post where two black men in a car are having an ordinary conversation as they drive somewhere. A third black man "rolls up" on them and one of the two in the car shoots him dead for "disrespecting" him. I'm sure there's more to the story. My husband, who grew up in a Staten Island neighborhood of mostly black and Puerto Ricans during the bussing era and then spent several years in Ossining (where a lot of brown corrections officers and their families live) is certain there's more to the story too. But that's a view of black urban culture that is often on full display in common culture (and reflects on what Glenn was saying about the prevalence of crime and violence in the black community). And then if you listen to the lyrics of rap music, it's so often focused on the "gangsta" lifestyle - hanging with the hommies, beating your bitches, drivebys, etc. that it's easy to get the impression that this is the majority of black culture. I know it's no more that than country music's concentration on unrequited love and pickup trucks is indicative of white rural Americans' entire culture, but if that's all you know, that's all you know. And, of course, if you're a truly informed person, we've just spent a year watching black people loot (often) black-owned businesses after white wokesters sets nearby businesses on fire, so again -- easy to get that impression unless you seek out broader news sources.
I was in a taxi driving through Times Square (NY) several weeks ago, We stopped at a stop light., I looked out my window and actually witnessed a black guy pop off another black guy and knock him out cold. The guy that was out just drifted to the ground. A few people walked up to him to see if they could wake him - and then we sped off. Who knows if he died or not. You see stuff like this on TV but not in real life...until I did.
Charleyx seems to be referring to ‘black urban culture’….just in the news this week ‘child gang warfare’ in the Bronx where 13 year olds are getting killed. Ditto Chicago, St. Louis etc
Yes, he is speaking some tough truths (that are consigned to the taboo vault in the public square, so they kind of beg to be aired), but they would fly better without using a word like "bastards". Someone else on here used "Negroes"... Using words like this are disrespectful and unkind to black people, and to others as well, but first and foremost to Glenn who has so uniquely given so much of value to our public square.
I'm an old white male. I must ask: When you look at black culture, is there even one thing that would make a white person want to join it? 70% of blacks are bastards. Have you listened to the words of (c)rap music? Is your life's goal to grow up and be a banger? Do you want to live in a neighborhood and listen to gun fire all night (and day)? If you are successful in school, do you want to be shunned because "You ain't black enough!". Do you want to spend your life on government handouts? Do you want to be admitted to college because you're black, assume astornimical debt and then bomb out? Or, as bad, graduate on a quota then be given a title and a broom at your new woke company?
Every one who wants even one of the above points in your life, raise your hand!
Black people have a lot of culture though, and are lots of fun to be around. Otherwise many poor and rural whites in this country don't have cult-ure so much as they're part of a suicidal death CULT! The GOP doesn't even have any cities for all they like pointing fingers at Democratic ones. What? Jacksonville? Fort Worth, Texas?!? Those are Republicans' "biggest" in the country—but who in the entire world has ever heard of anything or anyone coming from either of those places! And what is it the European colonialists(irony they so often fled Europe for the "less developed" world) said about unwashed uncivilized uncultured backwards savage barbarians who have no cities again!? Oh oops; I think I just said it! That's messed up to be sure, but then it's the white supremacist viewpoint! Irony though is that white supremacy so often it's the losers among white people subscribe to, as well that white supremacy KILLS white people. ESPECIALLY the poor and rural whites! W.E.B. DuBois, MLK, & LBJ all explained it. And from Jefferson Davis to Adolf Hitler to Donald Trump, those evil men all did it! Look at that 2020 Census for a dozen years of the Tea Party & Birtherist & Trump & QAnon crazies; the more power extremist Republicans get, the more they kill their own base! First & only Census in 250 years of US history that whites DE-populated! Yet based on the 7 decades prior to 2010, the white population should have increased by OVER 10 million at minimum, with the average increase over those 70 years being OVER 15 million whites per decade!!! But then, the Wall Street Journal front page headline didn't read "Rural America is the New Inner City" for no reason! Nor is Red State life expectancy YEARS(PLURAL!) worse than the Blue States for no reason either! Y'all like throwing stones, but your kind live in glass houses. & old white men are the most apt to die of heat stroke in those what with the warming climate! And no people in all of American history have ever been as "downwardly mobile" as Trump supporters. Ex: the African American story in this country is one of continual rise. Maybe a lot lower start(they were slaves!), but it's rise nonetheless. Similar for immigrants(FYI immigration from 2010-2020 was the lowest decade we've had in over 50 years, which puts it among the lowest in our history!). Trumpers though their daddies & granddaddies had it better than them. For them the American Dream is DEAD!
PS: Biden won 71% of US GDP by county vs. Trump only got 29%! Who are the "welfare queens" again(as Reagan called 'em) not pulling their own weight!? GOP base are government check cashers! As far as blacks being born out of wedlock, at least black people are having babies! 2016 was the 1st year that white deaths exceeded white births, & now after just 4 years of Trump with the lowest white birth rate in history(including our worst economic crises), it's over 1000 fewer white babies born per day than the over 5000 white Americans that are dying per day! White DE-population! Kicked into high gear under Trump!!! Again too; problem concentrated among the Trump whites vs. the anti-Trump whites are quite immune. "Rural America is the New Inner City" remember? Meanwhile suburbs fled the GOP in droves in 2020, same as 2018, & Biden won 171 out of 202 counties in the country with a Whole Foods! Or "Whole Paycheck" to many. College educated whites voted 40 points more for Biden than non-college whites. It's 2021 son; not 1971! Your old white male Booomer politics are outta touch & 50 years outta time! Whites are 2.6 times more suicidal than blacks today & 1.5 times more likely to die of drug overdoses! And those are Top 10 causes of death in the country with these record breaking skyrocketed "deaths of despair"! Which puts "White America", were it a nation, in the worst 15 most suicidal countries worldwide(half of which are in Africa btw), & "White America" takes the junkie narcotic cake for the most drug abusing! But for those stats are for whites in general, it's not all whites either; it's the Trumpers! You rednecks sold your souls to Satan for Monster Truck rally tickets! And the reason Trump lost is cause Americans, including half of white Americans, don't wanna be like you! The orange troll's the absolute disgrace of the white race & men! Maybe it's why Trump's margin with white men from 2016 to 2020 got cut by 43%! Seriously; how does the Republican Party move forward in the 2020s getting only half of the white vote!?!? Especially when the GOP's whites are dying vs. Democratic ones are growing in number(ex: college educated, young, Millennials now the biggest generation with Gen. Z becoming voters behind them). You RINOS(all Republicans these days as that WAS the party of anti-Know-Nothing anti-racist 1860 Campaign Slogan "Vote Yourself A Farm!" later "Act to Encourage Immigration" Abraham Lincoln!) gone white supremacist nationalist socialists are dinosaurs doomed to extinction! For most all wars & revolutions in human history weren't because of Marxism, including WW1, WW2, & our most horrific Civil War, the "Cold" War has been over now almost as long as it lasted. Reagan was once enormously popular, but no Republican President has first come to power now by popular election since the 1980s! HW Bush the last. Here in the early 2020s though, the majority of Americans(median age 38) aren't old enough to have voted before the Year 2000, let alone 1990! Oh, and 20 years ago, it was only 40% of Republicans were over 50. Today it's over 60% of GOPers have hit the Big 5-0! Your party is DYING! From both a figurative political sense AND in the literal one!
Your ethnocentrism is showing. "White" people have all sorts of culture. It comes from all over the world and mixes in with other cultural artifacts. Maybe get outside of your urban bubble sometime. Travel the "blue" highways a bit and actually get out of your car and meet some people. Of course, you can't be condescending or denigrating. You might also want to listen to what people are actually saying rather than filtering it through your preconceptions.
Your partisanship is blinding you and undermining Any points you may be trying to make.
To state that “poor rural whites don’t have a culture” is so profoundly wrong and ignorant and stereotypical that is really difficult to take you in any way seriously. What would you say if we substituted “rural white” for “urban black.” I feel confident you’d have a real problem with that, probably call it racist, and launch into a tirade or some sort. But having spent plenty of time in both environments personally, I know your statement is as wrongheaded and misguided as my hypothetical substitution sentence.
Is this an opinion formed out of real world experience or through the lens of conservative media? It would be just as disingenuous to paint a picture of white America by describing a trailer park in Appalachia and pretending it describes white culture.
Glenn is often accused of attracting a white audience who wants to hear him disparage black America and confirm their racism. I believe posts like yours only contribute to that notion. Now that I think about it, it seems so stereotypical that I wonder if you aren't trying to discredit Glenn.
People don't listen to Glenn "to hear him disparage black America". Ever since I was young - decades and decades ago - I was curious as to why black America was so dysfunctional. I have read everything I can to try to understand what is going on and I think many people feel this way as well. I am willing to listen to anyone who who can explain the pathologies but, I will not accept the excuses for bad behavior when every other ethnicity behaves otherwise. I have developed my theories about the dysfunctions - there's enough blame to go around including poorly crafted gov't policies a la The Great Society handouts, affirmative actions, etc. etc. But I can't help but come around to simple 'personal responsibility' and that blacks have to own some part of this dysfunction themselves as well.
I have long felt in a subdued, suppressed, vague sort of way (only rarely given form by what I said), what listening to learned, outspoken black thinkers like Shelby Steele, Robert Woodson, Kmele Foster, John McWhorter, GLENN, and more, have liberated, made crystal clear - that "The Great Society handouts, affirmative actions, etc" have really taken us down a twisted, thorny path. That includes what has followed, to date, to keep the myth of their goodness going, to keep them in place and expand upon them.
My husband is a white man who is not a racist - married me (a tribal member), for example. Yesterday, he was scrolling through social somewhere and caught an Instagram post where two black men in a car are having an ordinary conversation as they drive somewhere. A third black man "rolls up" on them and one of the two in the car shoots him dead for "disrespecting" him. I'm sure there's more to the story. My husband, who grew up in a Staten Island neighborhood of mostly black and Puerto Ricans during the bussing era and then spent several years in Ossining (where a lot of brown corrections officers and their families live) is certain there's more to the story too. But that's a view of black urban culture that is often on full display in common culture (and reflects on what Glenn was saying about the prevalence of crime and violence in the black community). And then if you listen to the lyrics of rap music, it's so often focused on the "gangsta" lifestyle - hanging with the hommies, beating your bitches, drivebys, etc. that it's easy to get the impression that this is the majority of black culture. I know it's no more that than country music's concentration on unrequited love and pickup trucks is indicative of white rural Americans' entire culture, but if that's all you know, that's all you know. And, of course, if you're a truly informed person, we've just spent a year watching black people loot (often) black-owned businesses after white wokesters sets nearby businesses on fire, so again -- easy to get that impression unless you seek out broader news sources.
I was in a taxi driving through Times Square (NY) several weeks ago, We stopped at a stop light., I looked out my window and actually witnessed a black guy pop off another black guy and knock him out cold. The guy that was out just drifted to the ground. A few people walked up to him to see if they could wake him - and then we sped off. Who knows if he died or not. You see stuff like this on TV but not in real life...until I did.
Charleyx seems to be referring to ‘black urban culture’….just in the news this week ‘child gang warfare’ in the Bronx where 13 year olds are getting killed. Ditto Chicago, St. Louis etc
Yes, he is speaking some tough truths (that are consigned to the taboo vault in the public square, so they kind of beg to be aired), but they would fly better without using a word like "bastards". Someone else on here used "Negroes"... Using words like this are disrespectful and unkind to black people, and to others as well, but first and foremost to Glenn who has so uniquely given so much of value to our public square.