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The issue with Affirmative Action is not only the ethical case for engaging in it as laid out, but even if we agree with the "purpose" as mentioned in the discussion, does A achieve it? to my mind, given the fact that it tends to help (bump) people who by and large would already be well off, which is to say middle class and likely upwardly mobile, and not the most disadvantaged. how often does its use convert someone who would otherwise not even consider going to college, not due to ability but circumstances, into a graduate, rather than merely altering which college an applicant goes to?

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