Only 10 minutes in and I’m struggling a little with something fundamental in Vincent’s approach; to say ‘we should trust black women, and we should be thinking of alternatives to prisons’ sounds to me like he is starting with a conclusion and saying we need to dig deeper into those ideas. Perhaps he’s just wording it in a way that’s confusing me or perhaps he will explain better through the course of the discussion, but it seems to me either 1: he’s starting with a conclusion and wants to find ways to justify that conclusion, or 2: he’s saying these are ideas being put out there and we need to debate them to find out if they have merit. If it was 2 I would agree but given that he’s saying these are good ideas being expressed poorly I would have to say he’s going with number 1. It may well be the case that we should ‘trust black women’ for example but there’s so many questions. Which black women? All of them or some? Who makes that determination? If we trust all black women should we also trust all black men? How about then all Chinese men? Soon enough we’ll be saying should we trust all people all of the time? Doesn’t context, situation, or circumstance play any role?
Maybe I should wait and listen to the whole discussion but this seemed to jump out so strongly to me that I had to comment
Only 10 minutes in and I’m struggling a little with something fundamental in Vincent’s approach; to say ‘we should trust black women, and we should be thinking of alternatives to prisons’ sounds to me like he is starting with a conclusion and saying we need to dig deeper into those ideas. Perhaps he’s just wording it in a way that’s confusing me or perhaps he will explain better through the course of the discussion, but it seems to me either 1: he’s starting with a conclusion and wants to find ways to justify that conclusion, or 2: he’s saying these are ideas being put out there and we need to debate them to find out if they have merit. If it was 2 I would agree but given that he’s saying these are good ideas being expressed poorly I would have to say he’s going with number 1. It may well be the case that we should ‘trust black women’ for example but there’s so many questions. Which black women? All of them or some? Who makes that determination? If we trust all black women should we also trust all black men? How about then all Chinese men? Soon enough we’ll be saying should we trust all people all of the time? Doesn’t context, situation, or circumstance play any role?
Maybe I should wait and listen to the whole discussion but this seemed to jump out so strongly to me that I had to comment