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Sorry. Having trouble resisting the urge to make one last point. Your bar what constitutes a threat to democracy seems incredibly high to me Jesse. You seem to be saying that anything short of a military coup doesn't qualify.

To be clear, I'm not worried about a military coup; I trust the military not to get involved domestically. What I worry about is the Orbanization of America (https://www.illiberalism.org/dismantling-democracy-the-orbanization-of-hungary/), which is what I genuinely think Trump would try to do.

Finally, if you think Trump's call to Kemp was his way of saying "make sure you have counted all the votes properly", I don't know what to tell you. It's like believing that Tony was telling Christopher to help these guys get a suit (https://youtu.be/9va2KKNCg4o?si=aPjP1Ht1Kf0Die_0&t=261).

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Ha, I understand.

But I think my view is plausible until proven otherwise--that is, until Trump actually takes power in an unlawful manner. He doesn't appear to be doing this, as we are now close to the next presidential election. Or, until the Orbanization of America. Maybe that will happen, but until it does, I stand by my statement: Trump's complaints have been mostly hot air.

To be fair, Republicans do this too. With the elections of Biden, Obama, and probably every Democrat before them, Republicans have made sky-is-falling, world-is-ending statements. Yet we are still here. 2020 obviously is freshest in mind, when Trump and others claimed that a Biden victory would destroy America; it would fall to socialism, China, fill in the blank. Now they are doing the same here: "2024 is the most pivotal, important election in our history."

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