Livestream Event: Glenn Loury on Clarence Thomas
featuring Robert George, Ilya Shapiro, and Randall Kennedy
This Wednesday, January 17 at 8:00 p.m. EST, I will appear alongside Ilya Shapiro, Robert George, and Randall Kennedy in a livestreamed conversation hosted by the Manhattan Institute and City Journal. The occasion is the publication of my City Journal essay, “Clarence Thomas and Me.” The piece is an argument on behalf of Justice Thomas’s significance in black American history and an exploration of his demonization by his critics—especially his black critics. As the title suggests, there is also a personal element to this essay. In “Clarence Thomas and Me,” I think through our shared role as African American public figures who are often at odds with mainstream black thought and opinion (though I’m not nearly as influential or as scrutinized as he is).
It will probably be helpful if you read the essay before the event, so I’m providing a short excerpt below with a link to the full text from City Journal. During the event, you’ll have the opportunity to write in questions for me and my co-panelists to consider during the Q&A section. This essay and the accompanying event have been in the works for a while, and I’m pleased finally to be able to share them with you. The livestream is free—all you have to do is click below to register, and you’ll receive a link to the event. Hope to see you there!
Clarence Thomas and Me: Glenn Loury on Justice Thomas’s Legacy
Wednesday, January 17, 8:00 p.m. EST
As the Supreme Court’s most renowned originalist and longest-serving current member, Justice Clarence Thomas has long been a lightning rod. Among conservatives, he is celebrated for his efforts to limit the power of the federal government, preserve individual liberties, and ensure equal treatment before the law. But on the left, Thomas is routinely denounced not just for his ideological convictions but on unusually personal grounds. Among black critics especially, Thomas is accused of racial disloyalty—a line of argument that seeks to diminish his historic achievements.
In his essay for the Winter issue of City Journal, contributing editor and Brown University economics professor Glenn Loury explores Thomas’s legacy alongside his own experience as a black conservative public intellectual.
Please join us for a virtual discussion featuring Glenn Loury, Paulson Fellow at the Manhattan Institute; Merton P. Stoltz Professor of Economics at Brown University; and host of The Glenn Show. Loury will take part in a panel discussion to explore Justice Thomas’s legacy both as a jurist and black conservative in American public life.
Participants: Glenn Loury (Brown University, Manhattan Institute), Robert George (Princeton), Randall Kennedy (Harvard), and Ilya Shapiro (Manhattan Institute)
This is event is free.
Clarence Thomas and Me
by Glenn C. Loury
from the Winter 2024 issue of City Journal
Clarence Thomas is a black American icon. There is no more American story, and no blacker story, than his. We should celebrate him as a living embodiment of this nation’s greatness, given his rise from the challenging circumstances of his upbringing—poverty, segregation, colorism, linguistic alienation—to holding a seat on the Supreme Court. Excluding Thomas from any history of African-descended people in this country would render it incomplete, just as ignoring his influence would leave any history of the current Court incomplete.
Justice Clarence Thomas is unquestionably a towering figure in American jurisprudence. As Scott Douglas Gerber, a leading authority on his legal theories, has noted, Thomas’s impact on constitutional law over the last quarter-century has been stunning. His long-standing views have carried the day in major cases. He has stuck to his principles in his three decades on the Court, and it has paid off. Thus, his insistence that the Commerce Clause does not empower the federal government to regulate everything under the sun is now the law. His position that federal agencies should have relatively restricted power is now the law. His view that the Second Amendment means what it says, and that individuals have a fundamental right to carry firearms, is now the law. His conviction that no constitutional right to an abortion exists is now the law. And, perhaps most poignantly, his passionately articulated view that the Fourteenth Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause forbids racial preferences in higher-education admissions decisions is now the law. Indeed, his principled stance that the Court’s job is to discern the original understanding of the constitutional provision at issue in a case has become the Court’s dominant approach. One could even plausibly hold that this is now Justice Thomas’s Supreme Court, not Chief Justice John Roberts’s. Thomas is its longest-serving sitting member, and his legacy will continue well after his time on the bench is over, as many of his former clerks are now federal judges themselves.
And yet, despite his now-undeniable skill as a jurist and judge, Thomas finds himself the target of criticism that differs in kind from that reserved for the Court’s other conservative justices. One expects public disagreement with his most controversial opinions; we should welcome intellectually rigorous dissent, for no one can test the validity of ideas without it. But too often, critics attack not Thomas’s ideas but the man himself—and this is especially true of black critics, who regard him not merely as mistaken but as a traitor who has forfeited his status as “authentically black.” For them, he is an Iago-like figure, driven by a perverse impulse to degrade African Americans. The quasi-religious conviction that Thomas’s reasoned defense of capitalism, color blindness, and individual liberty amounts to a disgust for his fellow blacks is, in my view, the outcome of a projected disgust for Thomas himself.
Why should this be? Other more or less conservative black figures have attained a status in the nation’s historical memory, and in the folklore of rank-and-file blacks, in line with their achievements. While Booker T. Washington’s program for post-emancipation uplift has fallen out of favor, no serious historian of African American history denies his significance. Ralph Ellison, while too idiosyncratic to pin down to any ideology, looks, from our historical vantage, like a more conservative figure than he may have appeared in his time. Though parts of Invisible Man can easily be read as a rejection of left-radical politics—the book rejects seemingly every conventional political position—its violation of the norms of contemporary mainstream black intellectual life has not kept it off college syllabi. One could argue that Invisible Man is too monumental a literary achievement simply to brush aside because of its purportedly errant politics. Even for those who see Ellison as a retrograde figure, his book is too important to the intellectual and social history of twentieth-century America to write out of the canon.
I would say something similar about Thomas. However controversial he may be, and however unrepentantly conservative his views, it is no longer possible to deny his stature and his influence on American life and law. He is a great man in a position of great power. Like any great man, he makes decisions whose consequences not even he can fully predict. And as with any great man, his very humanity—his virtues, flaws, personality, and persona—appear magnified, and often distorted, by the lens of the media and of history. His occasional errors in judgment and personal quirks take on symbolic significance. Thus, while recent controversies about his plane flights and vacations with friends may appear to tell deep verities about the nature of power, it is also true that his extraordinary biography has become an allegory of race in America. In fact, his identity as a black man sometimes overshadows the more basic, and yet more complex, fact that he is, first and foremost, a man—a human being.
Dear Glenn,
I've read your post about Clarence Thomas and quickly scanned your longer City Journal essay. One thing that surprised me is that you didn't acknowledge the sharp contrast between Clarence Thomas and Thurgood Marshall, the man he replaced on the Supreme Court. I'm also surprised you didn't mention the rough treatment of Robert Bork when he was nominated to the court a few years before.
This isn't a knock against Justice Thomas, but the black jurist who replaced Justice Marshall, the court's first black member, was destined for intense scrutiny. The treatment of Robert Bork, nominated by Reagan a few years earlier, set the tone for the rough treatment Clarence Thomas received when George H.W. Bush nominated him to the Supreme Court.
The early childhoods of Marshall and Thomas, while different, involve upbringings under often-difficult circumstances. One can argue that Justice Thomas had it worse in Pin Point, Georgia, but Justice Marshall's childhood in Baltimore was no cakewalk either
Academically, Justice Thomas attended majority institutions (Holy Cross and Yale Law School) while Justice Marshall attended HBCU's (Lincoln University, PA and Howard Law School). Republicans nurtured Justice Thomas. Justice Marshall, by contrast, was a product of and ultimately a hero of the civil rights movement. One could argue that Justice Marshall opened the door for Clarence Thomas to attend majority institutions
George H.W. Bush, the guy whose presidential campaign gave us the infamous Willie Horton ads, nominated Justice Thomas. Suffice it to say that a lot of black people didn't hold Bush 41 in high regard. Lyndon Johnson nominated Justice Marshall. Many say he did more for civil rights than any president in American history. One can argue about whether President Johnson's policies were ultimately misguided, but he was revered by a lot of black people.
Justice Thomas held conservative views when he was nominated to the court. Justice Marshall held progressive views about civil rights while he was on the court. The contrast between the two was stark, as were the differences in how Black America responded to them.
I'm only scratching the surface of the backgrounds of both justices. The Wikipedia offers opportunities for deep dives into the backgrounds of Justice Marshall and Justice Thomas.:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurgood_Marshall
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Thomas
Add it all up, and it's not surprising that a lot of black people were unhappy when Clarence Thomas replaced Thurgood Marshall on the Supreme Court. The Anita Hill accusations and the clown show that masqueraded as confirmation hearings guaranteed that Black America's take on Justice Thomas would be negative. His reaction to the hearings (e.g., calling them a "high tech lynching of a black man" or something to that effect), his unwillingness to offer an olive branch to Black America afterwards, his reluctance to say much during court proceedings, and his appropriately stoic non-responses to personal and often unfair attacks have made it easy for many black folks not to like him.
All the above are part of the Clarence Thomas story, but there's so much more.
You've documented his influence as a jurist, but Justice Thomas is also part of a conversation that needs to be had about whether members of the Supreme Court should be paid more and what kinds of restraints should be placed around gifts they can receive and outside income they can earn while on the court. Justice Thomas is also part of a conversation about acceptable behavior by the spouses of members of the Supreme Court.
Last, but not least, Justice Thomas is part of a conversation about Americans lack of trust in most institutions. The Supreme Court should call balls and strikes regardless of popular sentiment, but one can't ignore the public's overall erosion of trust in it. A recent Gallup poll documents this:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/511820/views-supreme-court-remain-near-record-lows.aspx
Justice Thomas didn't create this problem, but it's not clear that he's doing much to turn things around either
To make a long story short, there's way more to Justice Thomas and his impact than his blackness and his relationship with black folks. I know that's the focus of your upcoming conversation, but that's missing the forest for the trees. It's unfortunate that people put Justice Thomas in a "black box." It's the same nonsense that President Bidden pushed when he nominated Justice Jackson to the court. That's disrespectful to Thomas and Jackson because it undermines their legitimacy as worthy members of the court. It furthers racial divisions as well.
Dr. Loury, thank you for sharing yourself and your thinking!
I'm excited to listen to your livestream event on Justice Thomas. Thank you for sharing so much with us. I have a dream podcast or interview that I'd like to suggest; I'm anticipating that this one has already come to your mind.
My dream podcast/interview is you and Dr. Thomas Sowell in conversation about your respective life's learnings, how they share common messages, and differences where appropriate. I hate to say it this way, but there is only so much time when two such intellectual giants could have such a conversation. I think the world would be better for it, and that the discussion would have a long-lived value well beyond the next news cycle.
My over-the-top dream would be the two of you talking TO young people about decisions they make, paths they take, and challenges they face...and about challenges that they choose to accept and work their way through, rather than giving up on or looking for a handout for.
Again, thank you.