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Clifton Roscoe's avatar

Dear Glenn,

I've read your post about Clarence Thomas and quickly scanned your longer City Journal essay. One thing that surprised me is that you didn't acknowledge the sharp contrast between Clarence Thomas and Thurgood Marshall, the man he replaced on the Supreme Court. I'm also surprised you didn't mention the rough treatment of Robert Bork when he was nominated to the court a few years before.

This isn't a knock against Justice Thomas, but the black jurist who replaced Justice Marshall, the court's first black member, was destined for intense scrutiny. The treatment of Robert Bork, nominated by Reagan a few years earlier, set the tone for the rough treatment Clarence Thomas received when George H.W. Bush nominated him to the Supreme Court.

The early childhoods of Marshall and Thomas, while different, involve upbringings under often-difficult circumstances. One can argue that Justice Thomas had it worse in Pin Point, Georgia, but Justice Marshall's childhood in Baltimore was no cakewalk either

Academically, Justice Thomas attended majority institutions (Holy Cross and Yale Law School) while Justice Marshall attended HBCU's (Lincoln University, PA and Howard Law School). Republicans nurtured Justice Thomas. Justice Marshall, by contrast, was a product of and ultimately a hero of the civil rights movement. One could argue that Justice Marshall opened the door for Clarence Thomas to attend majority institutions

George H.W. Bush, the guy whose presidential campaign gave us the infamous Willie Horton ads, nominated Justice Thomas. Suffice it to say that a lot of black people didn't hold Bush 41 in high regard. Lyndon Johnson nominated Justice Marshall. Many say he did more for civil rights than any president in American history. One can argue about whether President Johnson's policies were ultimately misguided, but he was revered by a lot of black people.

Justice Thomas held conservative views when he was nominated to the court. Justice Marshall held progressive views about civil rights while he was on the court. The contrast between the two was stark, as were the differences in how Black America responded to them.

I'm only scratching the surface of the backgrounds of both justices. The Wikipedia offers opportunities for deep dives into the backgrounds of Justice Marshall and Justice Thomas.:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurgood_Marshall

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Thomas

Add it all up, and it's not surprising that a lot of black people were unhappy when Clarence Thomas replaced Thurgood Marshall on the Supreme Court. The Anita Hill accusations and the clown show that masqueraded as confirmation hearings guaranteed that Black America's take on Justice Thomas would be negative. His reaction to the hearings (e.g., calling them a "high tech lynching of a black man" or something to that effect), his unwillingness to offer an olive branch to Black America afterwards, his reluctance to say much during court proceedings, and his appropriately stoic non-responses to personal and often unfair attacks have made it easy for many black folks not to like him.

All the above are part of the Clarence Thomas story, but there's so much more.

You've documented his influence as a jurist, but Justice Thomas is also part of a conversation that needs to be had about whether members of the Supreme Court should be paid more and what kinds of restraints should be placed around gifts they can receive and outside income they can earn while on the court. Justice Thomas is also part of a conversation about acceptable behavior by the spouses of members of the Supreme Court.

Last, but not least, Justice Thomas is part of a conversation about Americans lack of trust in most institutions. The Supreme Court should call balls and strikes regardless of popular sentiment, but one can't ignore the public's overall erosion of trust in it. A recent Gallup poll documents this:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/511820/views-supreme-court-remain-near-record-lows.aspx

Justice Thomas didn't create this problem, but it's not clear that he's doing much to turn things around either

To make a long story short, there's way more to Justice Thomas and his impact than his blackness and his relationship with black folks. I know that's the focus of your upcoming conversation, but that's missing the forest for the trees. It's unfortunate that people put Justice Thomas in a "black box." It's the same nonsense that President Bidden pushed when he nominated Justice Jackson to the court. That's disrespectful to Thomas and Jackson because it undermines their legitimacy as worthy members of the court. It furthers racial divisions as well.

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John Moran's avatar

Dr. Loury, thank you for sharing yourself and your thinking!

I'm excited to listen to your livestream event on Justice Thomas. Thank you for sharing so much with us. I have a dream podcast or interview that I'd like to suggest; I'm anticipating that this one has already come to your mind.

My dream podcast/interview is you and Dr. Thomas Sowell in conversation about your respective life's learnings, how they share common messages, and differences where appropriate. I hate to say it this way, but there is only so much time when two such intellectual giants could have such a conversation. I think the world would be better for it, and that the discussion would have a long-lived value well beyond the next news cycle.

My over-the-top dream would be the two of you talking TO young people about decisions they make, paths they take, and challenges they face...and about challenges that they choose to accept and work their way through, rather than giving up on or looking for a handout for.

Again, thank you.

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