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I second this recommendation. It was incredible. Bari Weiss is the best interviewer on the planet right now. She really hit the ground running with her new podcast after she left the NYT. The production values were amazing from the very first episode, and it's clear she does deep preparation for the interviews. During the interviews, she asks substantive questions that get to the heart of the matter. Basically, she fulfills my rosy-remembrance recollections of "back when we had quality media."

Dr. Loury was amazing. As the commenter above said, he was at his "absolute best." The first hour focused on Dr. Loury's background. I planned to do something else while listening (I'm going to read Glenn's book when it comes out, after all), but got caught up listening. It helps to be in a reflective frame of mind, probably, but whatever the case, I thought it was great.

If you are impatient, skip to the final 40 minutes. That's when the fireworks start. "Absolute best" is right.

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