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While economic factors can never be fully ruled out, most poor people do not engage in criminal behavior and most poor people do not engage in violent crime. Economic factors are always present but still, most people do not choose to be criminals.

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You raise an interesting point. I am not certain how this could be studied directly. You ask, "What of it?" I have no answer to that. If you can ask that question, we are operating on different wavelengths. If you do not believe that people are free to choose between alternatives, then we are making fundamentally different assumptions about homo sapiens.

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Completely disagree. If all impoverished people or even the majority engaged in crime (especially violent crime), I think that you would have a point. I am not saying that all choices are the same, but only that they are there for almost everyone. Unless we agree that people are capable of making choices and understanding the implications of those choices, one of the fundamental functional prerequisites of living in any society is rendered moot.

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Thank you for your interest in my views. But I think that our points of view are so fundamentally different that I don't think that I have any more to add to this discussion. All best of luck and kudos to you as a discussant.

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