Isn't there a line of reasoning that splits the difference between John and Clifton, in which we can posit that an especially fragile black culture was more readily impacted by the economic changes of deindustrialization? In other words, we need not name deindustrialization as a primary cause of black poverty, but can rather liken it to the draining of an already shallow reservoir by which the cracks were more quickly revealed. When Glenn and John argue about how to quantify the effect (a third of the economy?) and judge its significance, the context certainly matters.
The last time I was in Vietnam, a Vietnamese woman approached me and related, " me so horny... take me back to America with you honey... I'll make you plenty of babies." Lol!
By the way, my visit to Vietnam was in 2018 to see what I successfully evaded during the draft. Fortunately, my number was high. Some of my friends died in that stupid war and some came back without d*cks or their minds. Imagine black soldiers who suffered the most casualties were fighting people who didn't call them n*ggers or kill them like the white racists back home. I probably would have returned home joining the Back Panther Party in Oakland, California. But I ended up rescuing white b*ys from an Aryan prison gang. Lol!
I had 4 former Vietnamese doctors (refugees) on my caseload at the same time following their conviction for charges related to defrauding Medicaid in California. I evaluated them for probation vs. prison incarceration per 1203.03 of the California Penal Code. Their excuses for committing the fraud? That's the way they did it in Vietnam. Lol!
I used to rescue wannabe PROUD BOYS and vets from Aryan Brotherhood prison gang rape too during my 34 years working in the prison industrial complex. This was after the Vietnam War came to an end. One of late General Westmoreland's cousins was assigned to my caseload. He was convicted of trafficking large amounts of marijuana. Lol!
The 1965 immigration law: hordes of well-to-do Asians and poor Hispanic immigrants with unearned benefits has hurt blacks. Diversity redirects resources (anti-black racism in a new set of clothes). Racism is a competitive relationship between groups for ownership and control of resources for wealth and power.
Black folks need to wake the f*ck up and shed their self-defeating positive sentiments about immigrants who are on a mission to replace them. Social integration is immeasurable. It can't be deposited into the banks. The non-black small businesses in black communities should not be there.
Asians will not allow small black businesses into their communities, to say the least, other non-black minorities. Racism is a team sport, and forfeiting is not a viable option. Koreans have no business of owning and controlling the billion-dollar black hair care industry. Blacks do no not own and control Korean restaurants or nail salons.
Blacks need to change their inappropriate behavior toward social integration. Blacks bouncing around their dollars several times among themselves in creating group wealth is true black empowerment. Asians in black communities transferring wealth back to their communities is insane. It doesn't take a PhD to be aware of these dynamics negatively affecting black folks. Asians and their probationary white propaganda to get ahead?
I'm reminded of Boyce Watkins a while back lambasting Korean small business owners for dominating the Black hair industry. He often seems to voice fiery calls for Black self-empowerment. I'm actually curious if Glenn knows Dr. Watkins and wonder whether Boyce might make for a good guest on The Glenn Show one of these days.
As I pointed out in the other thread, Asians, in particular the Chinese, are actually making an effort to re-industrialize America and bring back manufacturing jobs to the US. Unfortunately, as evidenced by the pushback against Ford's proposed licensing agreement with CATL for a battery plant in Michigan and likewise Gotion's plans for a battery plant also in the state of Michigan, there is enormous resistance on the part of the American political class and even much of the general population against this on the basis of vaguely articulated national security concerns. Thus I posed the question in the prior thread whether or not in general people believe that economic prosperity should be subordinate to geopolitics. This has ramifications for the economic well-being of all Americans regardless of race.
Separate from the causal question of whether deindustrialization led to the further socioeconomic deterioration of Black Americans, I'm of the belief that Clifton is absolutely correct in emphasizing the multiplier effects of manufacturing. Taiwan, with a population of 24 million, and South Korea, with a population of 52 million, disproportionately dominate high tech manufacturing in areas like semiconductors. Consider the fact that those two countries with a combined population of 76 million constituting less than one percent of the global population of over 8 billion comprise between 80-85% of global semiconductor manufacturing by revenue, and one sees just how staggering the overrepresentation is.
Furthermore, I believe that TSMC alone accounts for around 15% of Taiwanese GDP and likewise I had read that Samsung accounts for around 16% of South Korean GDP. Given that these are single companies, that fact truly is staggering as well. By comparison, I vaguely recall that at one point Walmart accounted for about 2% of American GDP and that was the highest of any single American company I believe.
We tend to think of manufacturing as supporting the lifeblood of communities or even cities, but as the examples of Taiwan and South Korea show, entire countries have been able to catapult themselves into prosperity and geopolitical prominence by cultivating expertise in specific but highly technical and in-demand industries. I'm not an economist by any means, but I'd venture a guess that Taiwan and South Korea are the embodiment of manufacturing multiplier effects par excellence.
I wrote my original post by emphasizing the need educating people in support of those people who actually ruin the country. Technology of course, is important and many high school students of all races will gravitate toward technology, but Im talking about the people that really hold us together like everyone in every trade. Where would we be without them. It doesn’t matter if you are the best tech wizard on the planet and your wont start. Of course you could take a bus, but who would drive it or your car does start but you get into a fender bender and you have to go to the ER, what nurses would be there to help. You get out the ER and now you would have to get your cars body repaired. the point Im making is it takes a lot of skilled people to run this country. Finally, the pay for all trades is much more than working on an assembly line because the tradesman has a skill that adds value. Assembly line workers can easily be replaced by a robot.
Dr. Boyce Walkins should be invited by Glenn Loury to give different perspectives. Walkins and I agree with Dr. Claud Anderson's approach to changing the inappropriate behavior of blacks to compete in this unforgiving capitalistic system. Different Asian groups are more cohesive than blacks (code of conduct). Will it take a catastrophic event(s) to get blacks to wear their glasses from upside down? I'm very frustrated.
Isn't there a line of reasoning that splits the difference between John and Clifton, in which we can posit that an especially fragile black culture was more readily impacted by the economic changes of deindustrialization? In other words, we need not name deindustrialization as a primary cause of black poverty, but can rather liken it to the draining of an already shallow reservoir by which the cracks were more quickly revealed. When Glenn and John argue about how to quantify the effect (a third of the economy?) and judge its significance, the context certainly matters.
The last time I was in Vietnam, a Vietnamese woman approached me and related, " me so horny... take me back to America with you honey... I'll make you plenty of babies." Lol!
I saw Full Metal Jacket too
By the way, my visit to Vietnam was in 2018 to see what I successfully evaded during the draft. Fortunately, my number was high. Some of my friends died in that stupid war and some came back without d*cks or their minds. Imagine black soldiers who suffered the most casualties were fighting people who didn't call them n*ggers or kill them like the white racists back home. I probably would have returned home joining the Back Panther Party in Oakland, California. But I ended up rescuing white b*ys from an Aryan prison gang. Lol!
I had 4 former Vietnamese doctors (refugees) on my caseload at the same time following their conviction for charges related to defrauding Medicaid in California. I evaluated them for probation vs. prison incarceration per 1203.03 of the California Penal Code. Their excuses for committing the fraud? That's the way they did it in Vietnam. Lol!
I used to rescue wannabe PROUD BOYS and vets from Aryan Brotherhood prison gang rape too during my 34 years working in the prison industrial complex. This was after the Vietnam War came to an end. One of late General Westmoreland's cousins was assigned to my caseload. He was convicted of trafficking large amounts of marijuana. Lol!
The 1965 immigration law: hordes of well-to-do Asians and poor Hispanic immigrants with unearned benefits has hurt blacks. Diversity redirects resources (anti-black racism in a new set of clothes). Racism is a competitive relationship between groups for ownership and control of resources for wealth and power.
Black folks need to wake the f*ck up and shed their self-defeating positive sentiments about immigrants who are on a mission to replace them. Social integration is immeasurable. It can't be deposited into the banks. The non-black small businesses in black communities should not be there.
Asians will not allow small black businesses into their communities, to say the least, other non-black minorities. Racism is a team sport, and forfeiting is not a viable option. Koreans have no business of owning and controlling the billion-dollar black hair care industry. Blacks do no not own and control Korean restaurants or nail salons.
Blacks need to change their inappropriate behavior toward social integration. Blacks bouncing around their dollars several times among themselves in creating group wealth is true black empowerment. Asians in black communities transferring wealth back to their communities is insane. It doesn't take a PhD to be aware of these dynamics negatively affecting black folks. Asians and their probationary white propaganda to get ahead?
I'm reminded of Boyce Watkins a while back lambasting Korean small business owners for dominating the Black hair industry. He often seems to voice fiery calls for Black self-empowerment. I'm actually curious if Glenn knows Dr. Watkins and wonder whether Boyce might make for a good guest on The Glenn Show one of these days.
As I pointed out in the other thread, Asians, in particular the Chinese, are actually making an effort to re-industrialize America and bring back manufacturing jobs to the US. Unfortunately, as evidenced by the pushback against Ford's proposed licensing agreement with CATL for a battery plant in Michigan and likewise Gotion's plans for a battery plant also in the state of Michigan, there is enormous resistance on the part of the American political class and even much of the general population against this on the basis of vaguely articulated national security concerns. Thus I posed the question in the prior thread whether or not in general people believe that economic prosperity should be subordinate to geopolitics. This has ramifications for the economic well-being of all Americans regardless of race.
Separate from the causal question of whether deindustrialization led to the further socioeconomic deterioration of Black Americans, I'm of the belief that Clifton is absolutely correct in emphasizing the multiplier effects of manufacturing. Taiwan, with a population of 24 million, and South Korea, with a population of 52 million, disproportionately dominate high tech manufacturing in areas like semiconductors. Consider the fact that those two countries with a combined population of 76 million constituting less than one percent of the global population of over 8 billion comprise between 80-85% of global semiconductor manufacturing by revenue, and one sees just how staggering the overrepresentation is.
Furthermore, I believe that TSMC alone accounts for around 15% of Taiwanese GDP and likewise I had read that Samsung accounts for around 16% of South Korean GDP. Given that these are single companies, that fact truly is staggering as well. By comparison, I vaguely recall that at one point Walmart accounted for about 2% of American GDP and that was the highest of any single American company I believe.
We tend to think of manufacturing as supporting the lifeblood of communities or even cities, but as the examples of Taiwan and South Korea show, entire countries have been able to catapult themselves into prosperity and geopolitical prominence by cultivating expertise in specific but highly technical and in-demand industries. I'm not an economist by any means, but I'd venture a guess that Taiwan and South Korea are the embodiment of manufacturing multiplier effects par excellence.
I wrote my original post by emphasizing the need educating people in support of those people who actually ruin the country. Technology of course, is important and many high school students of all races will gravitate toward technology, but Im talking about the people that really hold us together like everyone in every trade. Where would we be without them. It doesn’t matter if you are the best tech wizard on the planet and your wont start. Of course you could take a bus, but who would drive it or your car does start but you get into a fender bender and you have to go to the ER, what nurses would be there to help. You get out the ER and now you would have to get your cars body repaired. the point Im making is it takes a lot of skilled people to run this country. Finally, the pay for all trades is much more than working on an assembly line because the tradesman has a skill that adds value. Assembly line workers can easily be replaced by a robot.
Dr. Boyce Walkins should be invited by Glenn Loury to give different perspectives. Walkins and I agree with Dr. Claud Anderson's approach to changing the inappropriate behavior of blacks to compete in this unforgiving capitalistic system. Different Asian groups are more cohesive than blacks (code of conduct). Will it take a catastrophic event(s) to get blacks to wear their glasses from upside down? I'm very frustrated.