I totally, absolutely 100% disagree. First and foremost, the constitution states that rights are GOD given, not government given. You may or may not believe in God, but that's not the point. The point is that we are all 100% free, and governments can do nothing but restrict those tights. They can't grant them, because rights aren't theirs to grant.
We all get that there are governments, and governments make laws. We probably also agree that laws against murder, rape, theft etc are worthwhile laws. Still, those are restrictions. Now how about who you or I can rent to? How about who you and I can rent FROM? My point all along has been that, if the government, in its good conscience says that a landlord can discriminate on the base of race, then why can tenants? And they can. Never mind "under the table", a tenant can shout from the rooftops that he refuses to rent from blacks. Or Jews. Or whoever. It's not illegal. Well, why not?
You seem to be hung up on corporations, as if being a corporation protects them from discrimination charges or some such. It most certainly does NOT. Would you please just let go of that prejudice?
And, what is "late-stage capitalism"? Clearly, you've taken some sort of course in which they're implanting ideas in you that you decline to question. My rule of thumb is, question EVERYTHING. Yes, question me. Am I faulting you for questioning me? No. Well, while you're at it, question your teachers. If they deflect your challenges, they aren't teachers, they're indoctrinators. There is no late stage capitalism. We aren't at the end of something, about to start something else. That's fantasy. If you want something else, what is it? It takes capitalism to make your computer, your cellphone, your clothes, your home and pretty much everything else you have. Much of that was made in China, a communist country. Do you think that its being communist means there's no capitalism there? Far from it.
Okay, well, this is not a constructive conversation. I’m not sure if you are not a careful reader, if my writing is particularly unclear, or if you just are engaging in some really bad faith.
There is no mention of GOD in the Constitution. “Our creator” is in the Declaration, and since jefferson was deist, that isn’t as specific as you maybe would like it to be. The constitution is also to provide for the common welfare. We can disagree with what that entails, but freedom does practically require an equal footing. Pretty funny to talk about the constitution and rights when in those days only landowning free adult men had them. You think the constitution protected the rights of slaves? Or women? Or the natives? Perhaps they weren’t made by a god in your eyes?
“Late stage capitalism” is a progressive way of saying “ I have no perspective on history” I don’t believe in it, capitalism goes through cycles of over and under regulation. Because we are a democracy (more or less) it has typically reflected issues in the larger economy. You were however describing the situation the most progressive progressives complain about. I was pointing that out by using the quotes. Apparently too subtly.
Corporations are government constructions, paper entities. They aren’t magic. They entitle the company to some rights and protections, but also some responsibilities. Just as being citizens requires something of us. In our country there is a give and take, I don’t always get my way. Neither do you, even if you don’t like it.
I totally, absolutely 100% disagree. First and foremost, the constitution states that rights are GOD given, not government given. You may or may not believe in God, but that's not the point. The point is that we are all 100% free, and governments can do nothing but restrict those tights. They can't grant them, because rights aren't theirs to grant.
We all get that there are governments, and governments make laws. We probably also agree that laws against murder, rape, theft etc are worthwhile laws. Still, those are restrictions. Now how about who you or I can rent to? How about who you and I can rent FROM? My point all along has been that, if the government, in its good conscience says that a landlord can discriminate on the base of race, then why can tenants? And they can. Never mind "under the table", a tenant can shout from the rooftops that he refuses to rent from blacks. Or Jews. Or whoever. It's not illegal. Well, why not?
You seem to be hung up on corporations, as if being a corporation protects them from discrimination charges or some such. It most certainly does NOT. Would you please just let go of that prejudice?
And, what is "late-stage capitalism"? Clearly, you've taken some sort of course in which they're implanting ideas in you that you decline to question. My rule of thumb is, question EVERYTHING. Yes, question me. Am I faulting you for questioning me? No. Well, while you're at it, question your teachers. If they deflect your challenges, they aren't teachers, they're indoctrinators. There is no late stage capitalism. We aren't at the end of something, about to start something else. That's fantasy. If you want something else, what is it? It takes capitalism to make your computer, your cellphone, your clothes, your home and pretty much everything else you have. Much of that was made in China, a communist country. Do you think that its being communist means there's no capitalism there? Far from it.
Okay, well, this is not a constructive conversation. I’m not sure if you are not a careful reader, if my writing is particularly unclear, or if you just are engaging in some really bad faith.
There is no mention of GOD in the Constitution. “Our creator” is in the Declaration, and since jefferson was deist, that isn’t as specific as you maybe would like it to be. The constitution is also to provide for the common welfare. We can disagree with what that entails, but freedom does practically require an equal footing. Pretty funny to talk about the constitution and rights when in those days only landowning free adult men had them. You think the constitution protected the rights of slaves? Or women? Or the natives? Perhaps they weren’t made by a god in your eyes?
“Late stage capitalism” is a progressive way of saying “ I have no perspective on history” I don’t believe in it, capitalism goes through cycles of over and under regulation. Because we are a democracy (more or less) it has typically reflected issues in the larger economy. You were however describing the situation the most progressive progressives complain about. I was pointing that out by using the quotes. Apparently too subtly.
Corporations are government constructions, paper entities. They aren’t magic. They entitle the company to some rights and protections, but also some responsibilities. Just as being citizens requires something of us. In our country there is a give and take, I don’t always get my way. Neither do you, even if you don’t like it.
I really don't understand your sense of resentment. What did I do?
Little of what you say here contradicts what I said.
You seem quite strong on rights, but very passive concdrning responsibilities. I think that's where we differ.