I see. I see Your views, and they're really traditional. That may shock You, s.e.t.h. You seem to see some value in "radical action" and a leftist viewpoint. But the attitude of developing a strong interest in developing a genealogical "line" going down from Yourself to Your posterity is actually quite quaint.
I'm 66, and I see a lot here. And first thing I'll grant is that I may BE an exception. In fact, I know I'm an exception to a LOTTA rules. But Your idea that only a person who thinks of his grandkids can have a realistic view of what the future should look like is, let us say... I dunno how TO say it.
First of all, the idea that You have a "more precise idea of what they think that future should look like" is deluded on so many levels it's hard to know where to start. For one thing, a spiritual person.. I mean a TRULY Spiritual person doesn't generally flaunt the idea that they know what the future SHOULD look like at ALL.
For another, I don't know how much experience You have in the world, s.e.t.h., anyone saying they know what the future should look like presumes an awful lot, for example what the future COULD look like. Most people, not having crystal balls, fantasize. Sorry.
I don't know if I can say it any better than Einstein but, what You cavalierly refer to "end-of-liners," as if they're some kind-a subspecies of humans. Well, I can't speak of end-of-liners, nor would I ever attempt to CLASSIFY people in those words. But I would point out that the very SPECIFICITY You claim as an asset is, in actual FACT, detrimental to having any kind-a vision at ALL.
Me? My PREFERENCES, rather than a "vision" about the future are not constrained to people who are blood-relatives of mine. That's awful TRIBAL, don't You think, s.e.t.h.? So I wouldn't say my views are "nebulous" so much as that they're UNCONSTRAINED.
Like any Spiritual person... Let me rephrase that: UNlike most Spiritual people, I have no fear of death. Have no inclination to be a martyr; just don't see that it matters one Way or t'other. And if it doesn't matter to ME, obviously I don't think it should be of any concern to anybody else. My two sisters, anyway, seem to see what I mean, and aren't troubled by it. THEY'RE not that Way, which is okay-fine.
As far as political views, AFAIK, any right-thinking liberal would be moving away as fast as they CAN to the CENTER. The distinctly IL-liberal running the show in the Democratic Party and those who favor Donald T.Rump have nothing to offer in the way of either pragmatic ideas, nor transformative ones. Neither, in fact.
Now, how YOU feel about these things, s.e.t.h. is another matter. Because when You say "it's impossible to say if it's right or wrong..." Well, unless I mistake my guess, I think/feel You HAVE said.
Again, truly Spiritual people don't tend to look at things as right or wrong, and good or bad. Not that there's anything "wrong" with looking at things that way, as a lot better than 99+% of people DO. (Haha! "Wrong.") Point being, Spiritual people, not those who CALL themselves Spiritual, BTW, tend to just see how things actually ARE, as best they are able, and do the best they can with it.
Just IMHO, tho You may not detect the humble, unless You pay real close awareness to what I've "said."
Holy macaroni did you write a lot about what I said without understanding a word I said.
You impugn me with intent and ideas that are not mine that I went out of my way to demonstrate I don't believe. You have put your words in my mouth for no reason I can understand other than it makes it easier for you. Maybe 66 years isn't enough to become a careful and thoughtful reader; 45, clearly, hasn't been enough for me to become a good writer.
I'm not sure it's worth going deeper here, but suffice to say you definitely did not get what I was putting down and I'm not really inclined to try and clarify. If you want me to go through your post and point out where we diverge, I will, but otherwise, I said what I wanted to say, feel free to re-read it or not.
Well, I'll add a couple points. For one, I'm EXACTLY 50% Fundamentalist Atheist. That's how I was raised.
For another, what You go outta Your way to demonstrate what You don't believe doesn't necessarily mean You DON'T believe these things. You just can't open Your eyes to the mere POSSIBILITY that You could be wrong, so of COURSE You're not gonna read between the lines of what You DO say.
I see. I see Your views, and they're really traditional. That may shock You, s.e.t.h. You seem to see some value in "radical action" and a leftist viewpoint. But the attitude of developing a strong interest in developing a genealogical "line" going down from Yourself to Your posterity is actually quite quaint.
I'm 66, and I see a lot here. And first thing I'll grant is that I may BE an exception. In fact, I know I'm an exception to a LOTTA rules. But Your idea that only a person who thinks of his grandkids can have a realistic view of what the future should look like is, let us say... I dunno how TO say it.
First of all, the idea that You have a "more precise idea of what they think that future should look like" is deluded on so many levels it's hard to know where to start. For one thing, a spiritual person.. I mean a TRULY Spiritual person doesn't generally flaunt the idea that they know what the future SHOULD look like at ALL.
For another, I don't know how much experience You have in the world, s.e.t.h., anyone saying they know what the future should look like presumes an awful lot, for example what the future COULD look like. Most people, not having crystal balls, fantasize. Sorry.
I don't know if I can say it any better than Einstein but, what You cavalierly refer to "end-of-liners," as if they're some kind-a subspecies of humans. Well, I can't speak of end-of-liners, nor would I ever attempt to CLASSIFY people in those words. But I would point out that the very SPECIFICITY You claim as an asset is, in actual FACT, detrimental to having any kind-a vision at ALL.
Me? My PREFERENCES, rather than a "vision" about the future are not constrained to people who are blood-relatives of mine. That's awful TRIBAL, don't You think, s.e.t.h.? So I wouldn't say my views are "nebulous" so much as that they're UNCONSTRAINED.
Like any Spiritual person... Let me rephrase that: UNlike most Spiritual people, I have no fear of death. Have no inclination to be a martyr; just don't see that it matters one Way or t'other. And if it doesn't matter to ME, obviously I don't think it should be of any concern to anybody else. My two sisters, anyway, seem to see what I mean, and aren't troubled by it. THEY'RE not that Way, which is okay-fine.
As far as political views, AFAIK, any right-thinking liberal would be moving away as fast as they CAN to the CENTER. The distinctly IL-liberal running the show in the Democratic Party and those who favor Donald T.Rump have nothing to offer in the way of either pragmatic ideas, nor transformative ones. Neither, in fact.
Now, how YOU feel about these things, s.e.t.h. is another matter. Because when You say "it's impossible to say if it's right or wrong..." Well, unless I mistake my guess, I think/feel You HAVE said.
Again, truly Spiritual people don't tend to look at things as right or wrong, and good or bad. Not that there's anything "wrong" with looking at things that way, as a lot better than 99+% of people DO. (Haha! "Wrong.") Point being, Spiritual people, not those who CALL themselves Spiritual, BTW, tend to just see how things actually ARE, as best they are able, and do the best they can with it.
Just IMHO, tho You may not detect the humble, unless You pay real close awareness to what I've "said."
Holy macaroni did you write a lot about what I said without understanding a word I said.
You impugn me with intent and ideas that are not mine that I went out of my way to demonstrate I don't believe. You have put your words in my mouth for no reason I can understand other than it makes it easier for you. Maybe 66 years isn't enough to become a careful and thoughtful reader; 45, clearly, hasn't been enough for me to become a good writer.
I'm not sure it's worth going deeper here, but suffice to say you definitely did not get what I was putting down and I'm not really inclined to try and clarify. If you want me to go through your post and point out where we diverge, I will, but otherwise, I said what I wanted to say, feel free to re-read it or not.
Well, I'll add a couple points. For one, I'm EXACTLY 50% Fundamentalist Atheist. That's how I was raised.
For another, what You go outta Your way to demonstrate what You don't believe doesn't necessarily mean You DON'T believe these things. You just can't open Your eyes to the mere POSSIBILITY that You could be wrong, so of COURSE You're not gonna read between the lines of what You DO say.
One thing that's pretty consistent about Younger folk. They can sure be HAUTY. Do as You please, s.e.t.h. I'm done for the day, either Way.