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Frank Rowley's avatar

It was an interesting exchange. Thank you for sharing. You moved on from the original topic of conversation into a more generic exploration of communication.

Regarding the original topic which was your internal conversation with Bob and the other members of your steering group... It was quite apparent to me that you were all exploring the topic from different ways of knowing. It seemed to me that you were all sort of riffing off of Aristotle's approaches to knowledge.

In today's world the thesis is King. Propositional knowledge ...that is the theory of why a thing operates the way it does is very closely related to the scientific method and therefore in a post enlightenment world has taken on almost universal preeminence in how we view knowledge. That was your train of thought Glenn. To form a theory as to why people engaged in self-destructive behavior as a way to strategize how to change that behavior and thus correct the downstream problems. Bob on the other hand was using knowledge of a more participatory nature. That is using what organically evolves to solve problems within a system. First person observation and participation in problem solving rather than third person theory.

The other gentleman in the group seem to be more focused on procedural ways of correcting the problem utilizing various outside bureaucracies.

These are all different ways of understanding, different ways of knowing and probably all three are part of the solution.

To me that's what made that conversation interesting. In addition all the participants are focused on a single objective. Bringing different ways of seeing a single problem is extraordinarily useful in a situation such as that.

I don't think the above is directly analogous to where you and Nikita went towards the end of this video clip. The two of you seemed to move on to explore the idea of communicating with people who have dissimilar views and objectives and rather than droning on I think I'll leave those comments for another day.

Again thank you for sharing.

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Mark Silbert's avatar

I support (figuratively and financially) everything Bob Woodson is involved in. He's a no nonsense doer who keeps his eye on the ball and avoids endless debate.

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