Reading it a second time, and then thinking some, I agree with M. Petrov that looking at the woke like their thinking is infantile isn't gonna bear much fruit. I've never had the "pleasure" of discussing things with someone woke. My views come from logic-backed Instincts/Intuitions. What MAY be worth thinking about is "a couple" things. (Which sometimes turns out to be more than two. ;)
If You can take the frame of reference of the woke person(s), which requires the same listening/feeling You would put into a conversation You were having with someone close to You... Well, You'll bear fruit if You no more than understand WHERE they're coming from. Better position Yourself in debating this person, or maybe someone else down the road. YOUR viewpoints will be enhanced, I guess I'm "saying."
If it were me, I'd try to just plant a SEED of rationality. If You actually CONVINCE the person You're debating, it would be unBELIEVEably great. Don't count on it tho. ;)
Doesn't a lot of it come down to who the AUDIENCE is? And modify approach accordingly?
Some people who would agree with Your views, sometimes need the assurance that they're not sitting out on an island. Someone who doesn't may gain, by osmosis if nuthin' else, the viewpoint that people who disagree with their religion may actually be good people, despite that. May not gain any such-a thing.
All that to say...
If anyone is serious about encouraging change in a direction would, of course, need to look at things as a series of sprints that will turn into a marathon or three. No one race is critical (pardon the unintentional pun ;), which helps relax things. Again, ICBW. TY anyone who bothered to "listen."
Reading it a second time, and then thinking some, I agree with M. Petrov that looking at the woke like their thinking is infantile isn't gonna bear much fruit. I've never had the "pleasure" of discussing things with someone woke. My views come from logic-backed Instincts/Intuitions. What MAY be worth thinking about is "a couple" things. (Which sometimes turns out to be more than two. ;)
If You can take the frame of reference of the woke person(s), which requires the same listening/feeling You would put into a conversation You were having with someone close to You... Well, You'll bear fruit if You no more than understand WHERE they're coming from. Better position Yourself in debating this person, or maybe someone else down the road. YOUR viewpoints will be enhanced, I guess I'm "saying."
If it were me, I'd try to just plant a SEED of rationality. If You actually CONVINCE the person You're debating, it would be unBELIEVEably great. Don't count on it tho. ;)
Doesn't a lot of it come down to who the AUDIENCE is? And modify approach accordingly?
Some people who would agree with Your views, sometimes need the assurance that they're not sitting out on an island. Someone who doesn't may gain, by osmosis if nuthin' else, the viewpoint that people who disagree with their religion may actually be good people, despite that. May not gain any such-a thing.
All that to say...
If anyone is serious about encouraging change in a direction would, of course, need to look at things as a series of sprints that will turn into a marathon or three. No one race is critical (pardon the unintentional pun ;), which helps relax things. Again, ICBW. TY anyone who bothered to "listen."