I hope more of us want "results" to what Bob states in the context of "shared-intentions" across all "races" in our land with the hard focus on what Martin Luther King dreamed for his children - specifically what some call our "American Creed"...The second paragraph of our Declaration Of Independence. "This", (Creed), is why we do what we do. But for decades now (some for centuries) have lived outside the mental/emotional attachment to this "shared-imperative). When we "dream" of success in this difficult cultural and economic condition, it must all culminate it what we all need to be free and prosperous. Many are trying to decouple all of us from the American market and American Creed. That conflicts with Bob's (and King's) intentions in all this. The following is from the NMAAHC " Whiteness" essay. https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/118701681_1503581099834726_8655698853942456149_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=e3f864&_nc_ohc=bjv51IwHIE4AX90OmNn&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=dbd9c3046c3a7d1f6732d392b49b2de9&oe=6158EC5D. I'm stretching to say that if Dr. Maxwell Maltz' theory of success via our minds is near correct - that the subconscious mind is a servo-mechanism evolved to only to aid our success. Further, Maltz postulates that to do its job (work), the subconscious requires a person to have "a goal" - commensurate with one's self-image, that self-image must be a "positive" one and the "target owner" must be capable of forming "the goal". I'm betting there is quite a difference in imagining what a goal is between the middle class American (of all races) and those with poor or no parenting.
That's a very interesting hypothesis which ties in with some of criticisms we've seen concerning disparate role models by community, but we also need to ask ourselves how much universalism applies. On single motherhood some of Theodore Dalrymple's observations are apt- because despite their circumstances if you ask any single mother what she wants for a daughter, the answer will usually involve her daughter meeting a nice reliable man, settling down and having kids- her life without the deficits.
There is also a form of non-governmental community social safety net which operates in communities with high rates of fathers. Or at least it's what I postulate given that the UK has equalised income disparities for the 18 to 30 age bracket, yet still has significant differences in unemployment rates. Communities with high rates of fathers have all sorts of ways of gainfully employing teenage boys who don't so well at school- and let's face it, those first couple of jobs are just rungs on a ladder getting people where they are supposed to be.
Thanks, Geary. I hesitate to try and depict the economic positions of any groups today although I hope all groups improve at ever increasing rates. I'm stuck in the old fashioned belief that we need to encourage and insist our economy gets back to a stronger national position and per capita wealth is achieved within that dynamic (easier said than done at this point in time). Many fellow citizens claim to need help and many are even reluctant to work for today's wages. I sense the improvement in the plight of Black America who grabs onto the educational and effort ring of our merry-go-round. I remember when Jackie Robinson broke in to baseball. I recall the terrible time he had to experience. I see the adulation from the sea of "white" Tiger Woods received as he approached the 18th green in the 2019 Masters. A long time for such a change of hearts and minds, perhaps but perhaps that is the time it had to take. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/fact-sheet/facts-about-the-us-black-population/. I don't say or think these stats indicate "enough", but they are pointing in better directions.
I hope more of us want "results" to what Bob states in the context of "shared-intentions" across all "races" in our land with the hard focus on what Martin Luther King dreamed for his children - specifically what some call our "American Creed"...The second paragraph of our Declaration Of Independence. "This", (Creed), is why we do what we do. But for decades now (some for centuries) have lived outside the mental/emotional attachment to this "shared-imperative). When we "dream" of success in this difficult cultural and economic condition, it must all culminate it what we all need to be free and prosperous. Many are trying to decouple all of us from the American market and American Creed. That conflicts with Bob's (and King's) intentions in all this. The following is from the NMAAHC " Whiteness" essay. https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/118701681_1503581099834726_8655698853942456149_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=e3f864&_nc_ohc=bjv51IwHIE4AX90OmNn&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=dbd9c3046c3a7d1f6732d392b49b2de9&oe=6158EC5D. I'm stretching to say that if Dr. Maxwell Maltz' theory of success via our minds is near correct - that the subconscious mind is a servo-mechanism evolved to only to aid our success. Further, Maltz postulates that to do its job (work), the subconscious requires a person to have "a goal" - commensurate with one's self-image, that self-image must be a "positive" one and the "target owner" must be capable of forming "the goal". I'm betting there is quite a difference in imagining what a goal is between the middle class American (of all races) and those with poor or no parenting.
That's a very interesting hypothesis which ties in with some of criticisms we've seen concerning disparate role models by community, but we also need to ask ourselves how much universalism applies. On single motherhood some of Theodore Dalrymple's observations are apt- because despite their circumstances if you ask any single mother what she wants for a daughter, the answer will usually involve her daughter meeting a nice reliable man, settling down and having kids- her life without the deficits.
The other thing to consider is a more general sense of agency and self belief imparted through education. This source from AEI is fairly informative: https://www.aei.org/research-products/report/black-men-making-it-in-america-the-engines-of-economic-success-for-black-men-in-america/ . It shows about an 8% increased chance of joining the middle classes if agency is imparted early on.
There is also a form of non-governmental community social safety net which operates in communities with high rates of fathers. Or at least it's what I postulate given that the UK has equalised income disparities for the 18 to 30 age bracket, yet still has significant differences in unemployment rates. Communities with high rates of fathers have all sorts of ways of gainfully employing teenage boys who don't so well at school- and let's face it, those first couple of jobs are just rungs on a ladder getting people where they are supposed to be.
Thanks, Geary. I hesitate to try and depict the economic positions of any groups today although I hope all groups improve at ever increasing rates. I'm stuck in the old fashioned belief that we need to encourage and insist our economy gets back to a stronger national position and per capita wealth is achieved within that dynamic (easier said than done at this point in time). Many fellow citizens claim to need help and many are even reluctant to work for today's wages. I sense the improvement in the plight of Black America who grabs onto the educational and effort ring of our merry-go-round. I remember when Jackie Robinson broke in to baseball. I recall the terrible time he had to experience. I see the adulation from the sea of "white" Tiger Woods received as he approached the 18th green in the 2019 Masters. A long time for such a change of hearts and minds, perhaps but perhaps that is the time it had to take. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/fact-sheet/facts-about-the-us-black-population/. I don't say or think these stats indicate "enough", but they are pointing in better directions.