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All I have is my personal observations over the last 45 years. I have an MS in Chemical Engineering (guess how many women were in Engineering in the 1970’s). When I had my first supervisory job in 1982 I was assigned a black student in a program sponsored by major companies in St. Louis to help prepare black students to succeed in Engineering. She came from a more privileged background than I did, she came from a better neighborhood than I grew up in And she had far more money for clothes than I had had when I was in school. Her parents both had college degrees. But she was not a reliable worker. She was consistently late to work. She had no initiative to do anything on her own. I thought she might be an exception in the program until I went to the year-end banquet. The companies had contributed large sums of money to sponsor scholarships for the students in the program. Participants with C averages were getting scholarships. It was ridiculous. Should she really receive preference over someone like me that had a less privileged background, had top SAT and ACT scores and grades but was white? The only message these students received was they could not work and still get rewarded.

We moved to Charleston SC in the 1990’s and I became active in my daughter’s school. My observation in that school was the average black child had significantly lower academic capability and that black parents did not care about the outcomes of their children. As president of the PTA I actively tried to recruit black parents to participate on the board or at PTA meetings. While we had no difficulty getting white or Asian parents to participate (they volunteered) it was almost impossible to get black parents. The usual excuse by white liberals is that the black parents have to work. Well, most of the white parents participating had full time challenging jobs, At one PTA meeting a black child had a major role in the meeting. Not one person from her family came to watch. No one even came to pick her up. After the meeting I was the one to give her congratulations and give her the attention someone in her family should have given the sweet girl. We had to hunt up someone from her family to even pick her up. I could identify with the little girl because I was frequently forgotten and no one picked me up either.

My observation is that success in any activity is a combination of innate talent and willingness to work. If you are short in innate ability you have to work harder to get the same outcome as someone more talented. You cannot control your innate ability but you have total control over how hard you work. The major company I worked for essentially did an IQ test before hiring hourly workers. I rank ordered all those working for me and correlated that with their employment test results. My top rated employee was a black technician. He had one of the lowest test scores but he never missed work, followed the test instructions exactly every time and if he had any questions about results he consulted with one of the chemists. He was highly valued and appreciated but didn’t belong in an Ivy League school and I didn’t value him any less for not going to one.

My church has a mentoring program for minority students and I participated in that for two years. My conclusion from that experience is again the parents are the problem. The mother was in the program to see what freebies she could get out of the program, not how it could hep her daughter. She thought I would be the goose who would lay the golden eggs for her. An example, I tried to have the little girl do chores with me so she could earn money to buy everyone in her family gifts for Christmas. She made a list of what she wanted to get them. I had to contribute most of the money but at least she did some work and I hoped she would connect the work with being able to give something to her little brothers. Her mother wanted the receipts so she could return everything and get the money for herself. How is any school going to make up for that influence? I spent 5 hours a week with her. She was with her family the rest of the time.

I would like to see a study on how welfare affected the outcomes for lower classes. Johnson started the Great Society programs in the 1960’s. The negative outcome from those programs would start to show up in the 1980’s. Everyone is a unique individual with great value, regardless of their particular skill sets. There is something very wrong in measuring diversity by skin color and not by experiences, contributions and ideas.

For those thinking more money is the solution guess again. At least in Charleston, schools in minority areas get a lot more resources. They have more teachers, more specialists, better equipment, more of everything but still have worse outcomes. The school shutdowns from Covid are going to have even a worse outcome on these students.

I think the only criteria should be what is going to best serve the child/student. The percent of minorities attending selective universities is not a measure of this.

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There is very little appetite in modern America to solve the skills gap between black children and everyone else because black misery and underperformance is so profitable to so many people even tangentially associated with the educational establishment.

My wife, who is African, not African-American, is currently teaching first grade at a neighborhood public school here in Detroit. She will have 20-25 students on any given day.

Three or four of them are what we used to call "bad" kids: no discipline, no respect, no interest in learning. They are sent to school by the parents not to learn but to be bay-sat. The school administration accepts, and coddles these children because every set of buttocks that is filling a chair on "count day" is worth $10k + to the district. It is difficult to be suspended, and impossible to be expelled, no matter how egregious the behavior .

Those few bad kids get most of the teacher's attention, by default. The rest of the students try to get by with the scraps that are left once the disruptive knuckleheads have been dealt with.

For the limited time that is devoted to actual instruction, the public schools here are forced to use textbooks that seem to have as their main objective the desire to confuse the students and discourage learning, I am no genius, but I should be able to decipher first grade material, and I can't. The books are written by "experts" whose careers depend on the endless updating of their material, with copious amounts of interventions from early learning "specialists":, "achievement coaches" and so on. No one, absolutely no one cares about the implications of subjecting generations of children to this BS. They only care about checking boxes and advancing careers. The bulk of the credentialed professionals here in Detroit have long ago forgotten that the purpose of teaching used to be to provide children with the fundamental tools to go out into the world and be able to make their lives in it.

Then you have the parents...most of whom simply do not care one tiny little bit about their child's progress, or lack thereof. There are, clearly, exceptions, but they are, just as clearly, exceptions. And while having two parents who care and who are there might be preferable, that isn't necessary. My wife never knew her father, and grew up in a poverty that is simply unimaginable to anyone in America today, and yet she is now in Detroit, teaching English (her third language) to American children. The difference is that in Africa, schooling is a sought-after privilege, teachers are respected, bad behavior is not tolerated, and black African children are not schooled to believe that they are incapable of excellence because of their "victim" status.

School choice will help, as will the ending of all racial preference programs, but the biggest change will necessarily have to come from the parents themselves, who will have to discover the will to demand excellence from their children, teachers, and themselves, and not accept the permanent underclass status that is intrinsic to a culture of low expectations.

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