It was no more white supremist than when blacks in Africa held slaves or when Muslims held slaves or when Chinese held slaves or when Slavs were slaves. It has been a regrettable part of the human condition since the beginning. The path forward does not lie through victimhood.
Yes, it was so much better to be castrated, forced to march hundreds of miles to the coasts of East Africa or across the Sahara to be sold as a eunuch to some prince in the Islamic world in the Middle Ages. Or to be one of the black slaves working the salt marshes in what is today southern Iraq during the time of the great Zanj uprising there in the 800s. Put down after 13 years of resistance - but not by a single "white person" I might add.
Really, give it up with the neo-racist lingo of the day "White" this "White" that. It is truly ridiculous.
Lost Cause revisionist nonsense. Slavery in the United States was based on a white superiority ideal that still reverberates today. Chattel slavery was essentially a European creation when considered on a worldwide basis. From an economic standpoint a castrated enslaved Black male would have less monetary value because he could not reproduce free labor. The enslaved would not have to pay an external source for a laborer.
Was the Zanj uprising the "Lost Cause" you had in mind here? Or is that just an uncontrollable tic of yours you have to give out just to get rev'd up? I notice you use the term almost every time. As to those castrated boys, that was often done on the way to the slave markets. A large percentage of the boys to whom it was done died. Yet the eunuchs who survived were still valuable enough to make the trade worth it to someone. I guess "monetary value" was in the eye of the beholder.
You need to come out of that safe white bubble of naivete. Have you ever watched the old movie "Watermelon Man", starring Godfrey Cambridge? It tells the story of an extremely bigoted 1960s era of a white insurance salesman named Jeff Gerber, who wakes up one morning to find that he has become black. He learned some good life lessons and conclusions. It's very hilarious. 👍😂☺️
The Lost Cause is appropriate because Conservatives attempt to divert from the horrors of chattel slavery here in the United States. Your diversion probably works in the Conservative Uni-Mind but fails when introduced to the general public.
You can attempt to distract to slavery in Iraq, I’ll point out the conditions of the enslaved people on Robert E Lee’s plantation. The reason that Conservatives fight so hard to divert attention from the United States is because they are ashamed of United States history. The history of slavery in Iraq does not sanitize chattel slavery in the United States.
Please keep posting. We hold Saturday classes for youth teaching math, history, science, etc. Your attempt at diversion will amuse them. BTW, we use things like the film “Warrior King” to teach them about Dahomey selling slaves to whites, so it is not a topic we fear. The older children are exposed to Clothilda by Zora Neal Hurston.
Thanks for providing material for our classroom on how whites are so afraid of teaching United States history that they try to soften things by “Whataabout the Africans”. Predictable.
I read the article you cite and found much to agree with. I'm old enough to remember the last years of Jim Crow and the civil rights movement of the early 1960's. In my view, many people (especially blacks) made a tragic mistake when they embraced Black Power and various neo-Marxist ideas beginning in the mid-1960's. Aside from a few leaders, the Black community continues to pay a terrible price for that mistake, along with the nation as a whole.
I just read this post yesterday, and it was "Deja Vue all over again." It contains an immense amount of rational observation. I see it as pretty much a roadmap of how we got from the 60s to where we are now.
To think that it all comes down to "Whites be the bad guys, blacks be the victims" is absurdly simplistic and barely touches the truth.
Blacks were operating in a white supremacy system. As you noted, some Blacks bought family members. Have you read Black Slaveowners by Larry Kroger?
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Black_Slaveowners/v3KNAwAAQBAJ?hl=en
It was no more white supremist than when blacks in Africa held slaves or when Muslims held slaves or when Chinese held slaves or when Slavs were slaves. It has been a regrettable part of the human condition since the beginning. The path forward does not lie through victimhood.
Chattel slavery exploded in the Age of Colonialism. It was a white supremacy thing.
Yes, it was so much better to be castrated, forced to march hundreds of miles to the coasts of East Africa or across the Sahara to be sold as a eunuch to some prince in the Islamic world in the Middle Ages. Or to be one of the black slaves working the salt marshes in what is today southern Iraq during the time of the great Zanj uprising there in the 800s. Put down after 13 years of resistance - but not by a single "white person" I might add.
Really, give it up with the neo-racist lingo of the day "White" this "White" that. It is truly ridiculous.
Lost Cause revisionist nonsense. Slavery in the United States was based on a white superiority ideal that still reverberates today. Chattel slavery was essentially a European creation when considered on a worldwide basis. From an economic standpoint a castrated enslaved Black male would have less monetary value because he could not reproduce free labor. The enslaved would not have to pay an external source for a laborer.
Was the Zanj uprising the "Lost Cause" you had in mind here? Or is that just an uncontrollable tic of yours you have to give out just to get rev'd up? I notice you use the term almost every time. As to those castrated boys, that was often done on the way to the slave markets. A large percentage of the boys to whom it was done died. Yet the eunuchs who survived were still valuable enough to make the trade worth it to someone. I guess "monetary value" was in the eye of the beholder.
You need to come out of that safe white bubble of naivete. Have you ever watched the old movie "Watermelon Man", starring Godfrey Cambridge? It tells the story of an extremely bigoted 1960s era of a white insurance salesman named Jeff Gerber, who wakes up one morning to find that he has become black. He learned some good life lessons and conclusions. It's very hilarious. 👍😂☺️
The Lost Cause is appropriate because Conservatives attempt to divert from the horrors of chattel slavery here in the United States. Your diversion probably works in the Conservative Uni-Mind but fails when introduced to the general public.
You can attempt to distract to slavery in Iraq, I’ll point out the conditions of the enslaved people on Robert E Lee’s plantation. The reason that Conservatives fight so hard to divert attention from the United States is because they are ashamed of United States history. The history of slavery in Iraq does not sanitize chattel slavery in the United States.
Please keep posting. We hold Saturday classes for youth teaching math, history, science, etc. Your attempt at diversion will amuse them. BTW, we use things like the film “Warrior King” to teach them about Dahomey selling slaves to whites, so it is not a topic we fear. The older children are exposed to Clothilda by Zora Neal Hurston.
Thanks for providing material for our classroom on how whites are so afraid of teaching United States history that they try to soften things by “Whataabout the Africans”. Predictable.
Have you read this?
https://youngtorless.substack.com/p/bearing-witness-to-black-sanctity
I read the article you cite and found much to agree with. I'm old enough to remember the last years of Jim Crow and the civil rights movement of the early 1960's. In my view, many people (especially blacks) made a tragic mistake when they embraced Black Power and various neo-Marxist ideas beginning in the mid-1960's. Aside from a few leaders, the Black community continues to pay a terrible price for that mistake, along with the nation as a whole.
Thanks for the affirmation.
I just read this post yesterday, and it was "Deja Vue all over again." It contains an immense amount of rational observation. I see it as pretty much a roadmap of how we got from the 60s to where we are now.
https://youngtorless.substack.com/p/bearing-witness-to-black-sanctity
I’ll take a look tonight
Quick question
SCOTUS order the white Republican legislators in Alabama to draw a second district for Black voters.
Is the argument being made that Alabama districts should not factor in race