Perhaps it is you who should please stop. I note in your response to Elizabeth above here, you basically confirm the point about Douglass and the Constitution made by the Prager U video while continuing to trash it. You also confirm my points about Douglass and Lincoln by listing the books you refer to, while stilll continuing a posture of outraged indignation. About what is getting a bit harder to see.
Laughable. I point out the numerous flaws in the Prager U video. You fly right past that. The “set fires”opening, followed by the kids noting we have people like that now is obviously a reference to BLM. Garrison pointed out the good things Lincoln accomplished. Your attempt at distraction only works on Conservative sites or among Conservative circles. Taken outside of Conservative circles, people smell the stench of the Prager U Frederick Douglass crap. Prager U Candace Owens skit about white people not inventing slavery evokes laughter when discussing chattel slavery in the United States.
I changed my mind, please don’t stop, please take the Prager U nonsense out to the general public. I expect to see the Prager U bias challenged in court by teachers and parents. If Prager is acceptable, so is the 1619 Project.
The issue isn't the Prager U video, Robert, it is why you have decided to harp endlessly about it. It is not any part of the Florida standards, after all. I earlier said it was simplistic, though basically correct about Douglass and the Constitution. Which you actually acknowledge. But simplistic is not what bothers you about it actually. It;s just not rage filled enough, I guess. Your own analyses here are laced with a tone of absolute certainty and moral preening far in excess of what the Prager U video exhibits. I probably should not have bothered to engage as much as I have, so this will be it for me. Have at it if you need to.
No rage. No preening. The Construction had to be amended to achieve Douglass’ goal. I am absolutely certain the without amendment, the door was left open to slavery in the Constitution.
Edit to add:
Although the Constitution did not refer directly to slaves, it did not ignore them entirely. Article one, section two of the Constitution of the United States declared that any person who was not free would be counted as three-fifths of a free individual for the purposes of determining congressional representation. The "Three-Fifths Clause" thus increased the political power of slaveholding states. It did not, however, make any attempt to ensure that the interests of slaves would be represented in the government.
On the 200th anniversary of the ratification of the US Constitution, Thurgood Marshall, the first African American to sit on the Supreme Court, said that the Constitution was "defective from the start." He pointed out that the framers had left out a majority of Americans when they wrote the phrase, "We the People." While some members of the Constitutional Convention voiced "eloquent objections" to slavery, Marshall said they "consented to a document which laid a foundation for the tragic events which were to follow."
Perhaps it is you who should please stop. I note in your response to Elizabeth above here, you basically confirm the point about Douglass and the Constitution made by the Prager U video while continuing to trash it. You also confirm my points about Douglass and Lincoln by listing the books you refer to, while stilll continuing a posture of outraged indignation. About what is getting a bit harder to see.
Laughable. I point out the numerous flaws in the Prager U video. You fly right past that. The “set fires”opening, followed by the kids noting we have people like that now is obviously a reference to BLM. Garrison pointed out the good things Lincoln accomplished. Your attempt at distraction only works on Conservative sites or among Conservative circles. Taken outside of Conservative circles, people smell the stench of the Prager U Frederick Douglass crap. Prager U Candace Owens skit about white people not inventing slavery evokes laughter when discussing chattel slavery in the United States.
I changed my mind, please don’t stop, please take the Prager U nonsense out to the general public. I expect to see the Prager U bias challenged in court by teachers and parents. If Prager is acceptable, so is the 1619 Project.
The issue isn't the Prager U video, Robert, it is why you have decided to harp endlessly about it. It is not any part of the Florida standards, after all. I earlier said it was simplistic, though basically correct about Douglass and the Constitution. Which you actually acknowledge. But simplistic is not what bothers you about it actually. It;s just not rage filled enough, I guess. Your own analyses here are laced with a tone of absolute certainty and moral preening far in excess of what the Prager U video exhibits. I probably should not have bothered to engage as much as I have, so this will be it for me. Have at it if you need to.
Yes, my issue is the Prager U animation. Prager U is being allowed to be used in Florida classrooms
https://time.com/6301287/florida-prageru-education-schools/
No rage. No preening. The Construction had to be amended to achieve Douglass’ goal. I am absolutely certain the without amendment, the door was left open to slavery in the Constitution.
Edit to add:
Although the Constitution did not refer directly to slaves, it did not ignore them entirely. Article one, section two of the Constitution of the United States declared that any person who was not free would be counted as three-fifths of a free individual for the purposes of determining congressional representation. The "Three-Fifths Clause" thus increased the political power of slaveholding states. It did not, however, make any attempt to ensure that the interests of slaves would be represented in the government.
https://www.thirteen.org/wnet/slavery/experience/legal/docs2.html#:~:text=Article%20one%2C%20section%20two%20of,purposes%20of%20determining%20congressional%20representation.
On the 200th anniversary of the ratification of the US Constitution, Thurgood Marshall, the first African American to sit on the Supreme Court, said that the Constitution was "defective from the start." He pointed out that the framers had left out a majority of Americans when they wrote the phrase, "We the People." While some members of the Constitutional Convention voiced "eloquent objections" to slavery, Marshall said they "consented to a document which laid a foundation for the tragic events which were to follow."
https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-resources/teaching-resource/historical-context-constitution-and-slavery