Outstanding interview. Pastor Brooks’ comments on DEI brought to mind the following article by Bertrand Cooper and his appearance on John Wood, Jr.’s podcast:
Really great discussion. I would like to know more about Pastor Brooks's ideas on raising the value of education for communities like these. Highly valuing a good education and hard work is something Jews and Asians seem to do better than either white people or black people, although as has been discussed here and elsewhere, whites are better at it than blacks. No one's smarter than they other, but some are more educated than others and that's mostly up to one's self. (Does anyone believe a Harvard education is a sign of education anymore????)
Education is something Americans don't, as a nation, value as highly as other parts of the world and there's a joint effort among the far left and far right to increase the ignorance and dis 'nerds'. I loved the idea of teaching these youth entrepreneurship; that may be their best ticket to success and once again, it's something Asians & Jews do very, very well. And Jews have a waaaaaaaaay longer and more colourful marginalization narrative than anyone else, so never compete in *that* game with them...
This was a moving episode. I would have thought that financial literacy and the teaching of trades would have broad ideological support, this doesn't seem intrinsically liberal or conservative, just common sense. The migrant issue is creating serious cleavages though, not just in Chicago, also in New York. I was a bit surprised to hear about Johnson's approval rating since homicide is down quite a bit in Chicago, this must be driven by other policies.
Yes I saw some of those polls after listening to the episode, wasn't disputing the claim about the low approval, just trying to figure out what was driving it (since homicide is down quite a bit)
Beyond that, he has struggled with the migrant crisis. Migrants slept on the floors of police stations and at the airports for weeks. Efforts to create shelters for migrants weren't always executed well. Conditions within some of the shelters have been poor, with complaints of leaky roofs, vermin, unsanitary conditions, a lack of adequate food, and a lack of access to good medical care (A six year-old migrant died of sepsis recently). Many black residents resent the expenditures made to accommodate migrants while their needs go unaddressed.
Mayor Johnson has endorsed policies that have rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, including a decision to not renew the city's Shot Spotter contract (It got extended to just past the date at which the Democratic National Convention will be held in Chicago), and a decision to pull school resource officers out of all Chicago Public Schools. This was left up to the discretion of individual school boards before.
I could go on, but suffice it to say that Mayor Johnson has gotten off to a rough start.
I frankly didn't listen to the whole talk because I was turned off by what I thought was too lengthy (and perhaps not detailed or analytical enough) dissing of DEI, etc., at the expense of emphasizing/elaborating on the alternative approach being advocated. This is more and more my problem with Glenn's podcasts/youtubes. I greatly admire him, but I feel like he plays too much to his own audience rather than considering how to effectively communicate with people who lean left but haven't really understood what is wrong with the DEI approach. The negativity is a turn-off except to the "choir."
It is a given that a conservative in a liberal city like Chicago doesn’t make headway with the business community. However, Pastor Brook states that being a preacher is also a hinderance in the liberal city. It is disheartening that the fact that one is a person of God is now a negative. What the liberal neoracists (thanking Coleman Hughes for solidifying the progressive liberals with this moniker) refuse to acknowledge is that almost all of the civil rights gained from the time of the abolitionists to the civil rights enacted in 1964 were led by religious people...“People that the left would call extremist religious zealots today..” To paraphrase Sowell.
It’s a good episode, and an interesting guest. I feel frustrated because there is so little room within conservatism for someone like myself that even though I can see the flaws within the libs, and ultimately think capitalism and family support is the best we can do, I’m not joining a church or voting Trump. So the only way I could apply the word to myself is in some subversive, artful way that doesn’t hinge on what already exists in the Republican party and is in fact opposed to it in large part. Black conservatives will have an easier time than most in seeing this logic, but it’s hardly going mainstream anytime soon, and if a trans woman and black guys are the ones who have the easiest time seeing this, isn’t that DEI of a kind? I thought we were against that.
“It doesn’t offer faith, it doesn’t offer meaningful work, it doesn’t live with us?” I could not have described religion better, now let’s write Woke Racism.
Great conversation. Brooks reinforces the same way many of us feel about changes within the black community. Dedicated leaders need to find other means. They need to go through back channels to accomplish things instead of dealing with the main stream people who have personal or economic interests. There will always be certain black leaders who profit from all the bad things that take place within the inner-city. Pastor Brooks knows that, and this is his way of dealing with it.
I'm waiting for the day when that new center is finally built and opened. Then I would love to see a Glenn and John episode there.
I have been following and donating to Pastor Brooks for a few years now. I first heard about him in Eli and Shelby Steele's documentary "What Killed Michael Brown". The Pastor is the real deal!
At one point he emailed me (and others that had donated) with his cell phone number and an offer to talk about anything I wanted, spiritual or otherwise.
I really admired this conversation EXCEPT for the too considerable time and energy spent criticizing the "black liberal elites." I think it would have been much more effective without more than a passing reference to that negativity. I believe this demonizing of "the other side" is for the most part self-defeating and counterproductive.
In his piece, he explains, based on several scientific studies, how the supply of “eligible” men affects the behavior of women and visa-versa.
“But how do such imbalances manifest themselves with regard to mating strategies? When there is a surplus of men, men are more likely to adapt to women’s preferences. When there is a larger male-to-female ratio, men are more likely to compete with each other to be what women want. Men are more willing to do what women want in order to be with them. On the other hand, when there is a surplus of women relative to men, women are more likely to adapt to men’s preferences. They compete with one another to be what men want. “
Although his piece mainly speaks to college educated women, this phenomenon seems to manifest across cultural and socioeconomic backgrounds. It’s basic human behavior, not unique to any particular culture.
“Understanding that cultural sexualization is reliably associated with economic inequality provides insight into its origins, shedding light on the ecological conditions that perpetuate this controversial cultural trend.”
It seems to me to conclude that if we, as a society want to encourage marriage and family formation, we need to make sure our young men have everything they need to develop into successful adult men. And your guest is doing the work to making this happen! There is hope!
Outstanding interview. Pastor Brooks’ comments on DEI brought to mind the following article by Bertrand Cooper and his appearance on John Wood, Jr.’s podcast:
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2021/07/who-actually-gets-to-create-black-pop-culture
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/class-and-black-america-a-conversation/id1652310814?i=1000635457373
Really great discussion. I would like to know more about Pastor Brooks's ideas on raising the value of education for communities like these. Highly valuing a good education and hard work is something Jews and Asians seem to do better than either white people or black people, although as has been discussed here and elsewhere, whites are better at it than blacks. No one's smarter than they other, but some are more educated than others and that's mostly up to one's self. (Does anyone believe a Harvard education is a sign of education anymore????)
Education is something Americans don't, as a nation, value as highly as other parts of the world and there's a joint effort among the far left and far right to increase the ignorance and dis 'nerds'. I loved the idea of teaching these youth entrepreneurship; that may be their best ticket to success and once again, it's something Asians & Jews do very, very well. And Jews have a waaaaaaaaay longer and more colourful marginalization narrative than anyone else, so never compete in *that* game with them...
Take notes. Take lots of notes!
I just made a donation...you should too!
This was a moving episode. I would have thought that financial literacy and the teaching of trades would have broad ideological support, this doesn't seem intrinsically liberal or conservative, just common sense. The migrant issue is creating serious cleavages though, not just in Chicago, also in New York. I was a bit surprised to hear about Johnson's approval rating since homicide is down quite a bit in Chicago, this must be driven by other policies.
Probably not because he contributed much to the decline. Look what he was up to in cancelling this program, only to reverse himself temporarily....
https://chicago.suntimes.com/city-hall/2024/02/22/shotspotter-contract-cost-mayor-brandon-johnson-cancel-extension-summer
Mayor Johnson has gotten off to a rough start. I won't bore you with the details, but suffice it to say that public opinion polls reflect this.
Illinois Policy commissioned a poll that was released in November:
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/press-releases/lincoln-poll-chicago-mayor-johnson-favorability-very-low-6-months-into-term/
It had Brandon Johnson at a 28% job approval rating after only six months on the job.
A newer poll, which was released last month, had Johnson at a 21% job approval rating. Here's a Chicago Sun-Times article about the poll:
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2024/1/25/24050977/chicago-mayor-brandon-johnson-job-approval-poll-tulchin-research
Here's an excerpt from the article that shows Chicago residents of all stripes are not happy with Mayor Johnson's job performance:
Among Black men, 14% rated Johnson’s performance as “excellent or good,” with 67% branding the work he’s done as mayor as “fair or poor.”
Johnson got a “fair or poor” job rating from 75% of white registered voters surveyed and 69% of Latinos questioned.
Here's a link to another Chicago Sun-Times article that was published today:
https://chicago.suntimes.com/brandonjohnson/2024/02/20/mayor-brandon-johnson-media-relationship-public-confidence-questions
The title helps explain why Johnson's job approval rating is so low:
Mayor Brandon Johnson, his message, and the media: Time for a course correction before public loses faith
Left-leaning Chicago activists are down on Mayor Johnson as well. Here's a link to a recent "Cut the Bull" podcast that features one of them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAvZ0fD2Two
All three of the panelists have Chicago roots.
Yes I saw some of those polls after listening to the episode, wasn't disputing the claim about the low approval, just trying to figure out what was driving it (since homicide is down quite a bit)
The second Chicago Sun-Times article details how Mayor Johnson's relationship with the press has soured:
https://chicago.suntimes.com/brandonjohnson/2024/02/20/mayor-brandon-johnson-media-relationship-public-confidence-questions
Beyond that, he has struggled with the migrant crisis. Migrants slept on the floors of police stations and at the airports for weeks. Efforts to create shelters for migrants weren't always executed well. Conditions within some of the shelters have been poor, with complaints of leaky roofs, vermin, unsanitary conditions, a lack of adequate food, and a lack of access to good medical care (A six year-old migrant died of sepsis recently). Many black residents resent the expenditures made to accommodate migrants while their needs go unaddressed.
Mayor Johnson has endorsed policies that have rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, including a decision to not renew the city's Shot Spotter contract (It got extended to just past the date at which the Democratic National Convention will be held in Chicago), and a decision to pull school resource officers out of all Chicago Public Schools. This was left up to the discretion of individual school boards before.
I could go on, but suffice it to say that Mayor Johnson has gotten off to a rough start.
This is helpful context... I only mentioned crime because it was a major factor in the runoff will Vallas
I will—thanks for the nudge
I frankly didn't listen to the whole talk because I was turned off by what I thought was too lengthy (and perhaps not detailed or analytical enough) dissing of DEI, etc., at the expense of emphasizing/elaborating on the alternative approach being advocated. This is more and more my problem with Glenn's podcasts/youtubes. I greatly admire him, but I feel like he plays too much to his own audience rather than considering how to effectively communicate with people who lean left but haven't really understood what is wrong with the DEI approach. The negativity is a turn-off except to the "choir."
Lesley I also found the trashing of elites to be mostly unnecessary and gratuitous but please listen to the whole thing, it's worth your time.
It is a given that a conservative in a liberal city like Chicago doesn’t make headway with the business community. However, Pastor Brook states that being a preacher is also a hinderance in the liberal city. It is disheartening that the fact that one is a person of God is now a negative. What the liberal neoracists (thanking Coleman Hughes for solidifying the progressive liberals with this moniker) refuse to acknowledge is that almost all of the civil rights gained from the time of the abolitionists to the civil rights enacted in 1964 were led by religious people...“People that the left would call extremist religious zealots today..” To paraphrase Sowell.
It’s a good episode, and an interesting guest. I feel frustrated because there is so little room within conservatism for someone like myself that even though I can see the flaws within the libs, and ultimately think capitalism and family support is the best we can do, I’m not joining a church or voting Trump. So the only way I could apply the word to myself is in some subversive, artful way that doesn’t hinge on what already exists in the Republican party and is in fact opposed to it in large part. Black conservatives will have an easier time than most in seeing this logic, but it’s hardly going mainstream anytime soon, and if a trans woman and black guys are the ones who have the easiest time seeing this, isn’t that DEI of a kind? I thought we were against that.
“It doesn’t offer faith, it doesn’t offer meaningful work, it doesn’t live with us?” I could not have described religion better, now let’s write Woke Racism.
Great conversation. Brooks reinforces the same way many of us feel about changes within the black community. Dedicated leaders need to find other means. They need to go through back channels to accomplish things instead of dealing with the main stream people who have personal or economic interests. There will always be certain black leaders who profit from all the bad things that take place within the inner-city. Pastor Brooks knows that, and this is his way of dealing with it.
I'm waiting for the day when that new center is finally built and opened. Then I would love to see a Glenn and John episode there.
Calling yourself a conservative is cultural appropriation 😏
This is Glenn best guest yet. Why? Corey is in the belly of the place where fears are manufactured and he is still conservative.
I have been following and donating to Pastor Brooks for a few years now. I first heard about him in Eli and Shelby Steele's documentary "What Killed Michael Brown". The Pastor is the real deal!
At one point he emailed me (and others that had donated) with his cell phone number and an offer to talk about anything I wanted, spiritual or otherwise.
It's great that he is finally on The Glenn Show.
I really admired this conversation EXCEPT for the too considerable time and energy spent criticizing the "black liberal elites." I think it would have been much more effective without more than a passing reference to that negativity. I believe this demonizing of "the other side" is for the most part self-defeating and counterproductive.
It needs to be more than a passing reference as it is that ideology that needs to be pushed back
What an inspirational leader!! Great interview!
Rob Henderson recently wrote a Substack piece outlining the growing problem of single college age women…
https://open.substack.com/pub/robkhenderson/p/all-the-single-ladies?r=ub7jx&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
In his piece, he explains, based on several scientific studies, how the supply of “eligible” men affects the behavior of women and visa-versa.
“But how do such imbalances manifest themselves with regard to mating strategies? When there is a surplus of men, men are more likely to adapt to women’s preferences. When there is a larger male-to-female ratio, men are more likely to compete with each other to be what women want. Men are more willing to do what women want in order to be with them. On the other hand, when there is a surplus of women relative to men, women are more likely to adapt to men’s preferences. They compete with one another to be what men want. “
Although his piece mainly speaks to college educated women, this phenomenon seems to manifest across cultural and socioeconomic backgrounds. It’s basic human behavior, not unique to any particular culture.
“Understanding that cultural sexualization is reliably associated with economic inequality provides insight into its origins, shedding light on the ecological conditions that perpetuate this controversial cultural trend.”
It seems to me to conclude that if we, as a society want to encourage marriage and family formation, we need to make sure our young men have everything they need to develop into successful adult men. And your guest is doing the work to making this happen! There is hope!