The alleged killer was apprehended. He's a Guatemalan migrant. The report says he watched the woman burn to death after he set her on fire.
It's too early to draw conclusions about the alleged assailant or his motivations, but this quote from the article confirms that many New York residents fear for their safety when they ride the subway:
“It’s scary,” Alex Gureyev, a 39-year-old construction manager from Brooklyn, told The Post.
“It’s going downhill a bit,” he continued. “Everybody keeps saying it’s going back to the seventies. It’s a frequent occurrence — not like this, setting people on fire — but like the mugging, the killings, the fighting, the shootings, they’re really common nowadays. [It’s] very bad.”
I think we too easily fall for the bait and switch. The elite, who have created this mess, need to distract us from their ideological failures. So they try to make it about Daniel Penny, or Donald Trump, or Magats, or anyone else they can think to blame.
Neely clearly should have been in prison or in an institution. It is neither Trump's nor Penny's fault tht he wasn't. It is Kathy Hochul's fault. And Alvin Bragg's. We must not allow ourselves to be continually misdirected by political hucksters.
More than additional Daniel Pennys, New York needs leaders who take public safety seriously. Governor Hochul just announced that she's sending 250 National Guard members to patrol the subways. That's in addition to the 750 National Guard members she deployed in March, bringing the total to 1,000, with an estimated cost of $100 million.
Local officials worth their salt wouldn't have allowed things to deteriorate to the point that the governor felt the need to send 1,000 National Guard members to patrol the subways.
I love this from the NY Post article: '“Subway crime is down 10% just since last March,” Hochul said. “Only two years since the year 1970 have we had fewer subway crimes than we had this past year.”'
So she deploys the National Guard (and installs video surveillance in every car) and then compares rates to past years. When it comes to comparison, it seems to me the deployment the of national guard changes an apple into an orange in a major way.
To be fair, overall crime numbers on the subways seem to be down now that the governor has deployed 1,000 National Guard members in the subways and the NYPD deployed an additional 1,000 uniformed officers to patrol the subways in January, according to NBC New York:
Weekday traffic varies by day, but was down by more than 20% most days between November 20th and December 16th. Weekend traffic was better, but still down by 5-10%.
These are killer numbers, pun intended, if you're managing local and state budgets because low subway ridership is bad for business and results in lower tax revenues.
Well, there is always the Scott Adams rule, or segregating the subway cars, or my favorite, Bernie Goetz with a Poo Shiesty mask. That would certainly cut down on all the administrative paperwork necessary after such an event.
Yes, if Penny had been a policeman rather than Daniel, the ex-Marine, the reaction by both public and media would have been entirely different. In some ways that differential reaction would have been unfair, and tainted by the anti-police bias which has been regularly demonstrated over the last few year. But, in other ways, not. We would expect -- reasonably I would suggest -- that an armed & trained policeman would have had a variety of methods and tools available to him to subdue/restrain a lunatic Neely that are typically less life-threatening. (Thus the outrage at Derek Chauvin who evidently maintained his restraint when other methods and tools were indeed at hand). So yes, if a policeman had held Neely in a chokehold for X minutes in lieu of deploying any other less risky method of restraint, there would indeed have been a greater (and probably justifiable) outrage, along with a variety of subsequent questions like: why didn't you tase him? why didn't you handcuff him? why didn't you club him? Etc. Daniel Penny, of course, had none of those options available to him.
And yes, John's reaction to Penny's intervention (the ultimate consequence of which was Neely's death) was absolutely on target. For all us -- the vast American public -- who are not trained in physical confrontation...who have not engaged in violent conflict...who are not 6'4" and built like a linebacker (and even that, sometimes, is little protection)... the fact that there is a brave and capable individual in the here & now who is willing to risk injury/death to protect the rest of us is a great and wondrous thing. From the standpoint of the people on that car (and we all could have been on that car) Penny is a hero, who acted when the rest of us did not, or could not...placing himself in harm's way for our (the public's) benefit. He should have been honored. Instead he was arrested & prosecuted by the very State whose failure created the crisis that Penny resolved.
In the absence of that State sanctioned protection, all of us, each of us, is dependent upon our own ability to protect ourselves. Thank God that Penny was there to act on our behalf.
"While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' Tommy, fall be'ind,"
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind."
The truth that we are only now being able to even speak out loud again: The greatness of our nation has very little to do with the Constitution or our form of government. The greatness of our nation stands because a plurality of strong men who, individually and collectively, taught their strong sons to protect the weak. Our fancy laws are all built atop that structure, and if the base falls, no law can be passed that will keep it standing. All of our cultural hero myths make clear what a man is, and what his duty is.
The consequences of this truth hurts the little ears and feelings of the delusional. The questions we have to answer are these: 1. have we reached the point of pain yet when we stop listening to the crying? 2. Is it too late to reinvigorate the tradition of greatness? 3. Can we convince majorities who are not of European descent to fully join the project? That they ARE welcome, that the race hustlers are lying by seeding the people with the idea that white people would never accept non-whites into our culture.
Aside: I exclude women from this analysis for god reason. Women’s roles in this process should be reinstated by women. As ever, for the common good the sexes should work together, separately.
Why. not. Otherwise just hand your keys to the woke because they will wind up with them eventually anyway.
A woman sleeping in a subway car was set on fire and killed at 7:30 this morning according to the NY Post:
https://nypost.com/2024/12/22/us-news/suspect-accused-of-setting-nyc-subway-rider-on-fire-arrested/
The alleged killer was apprehended. He's a Guatemalan migrant. The report says he watched the woman burn to death after he set her on fire.
It's too early to draw conclusions about the alleged assailant or his motivations, but this quote from the article confirms that many New York residents fear for their safety when they ride the subway:
“It’s scary,” Alex Gureyev, a 39-year-old construction manager from Brooklyn, told The Post.
“It’s going downhill a bit,” he continued. “Everybody keeps saying it’s going back to the seventies. It’s a frequent occurrence — not like this, setting people on fire — but like the mugging, the killings, the fighting, the shootings, they’re really common nowadays. [It’s] very bad.”
I think we too easily fall for the bait and switch. The elite, who have created this mess, need to distract us from their ideological failures. So they try to make it about Daniel Penny, or Donald Trump, or Magats, or anyone else they can think to blame.
Neely clearly should have been in prison or in an institution. It is neither Trump's nor Penny's fault tht he wasn't. It is Kathy Hochul's fault. And Alvin Bragg's. We must not allow ourselves to be continually misdirected by political hucksters.
More than additional Daniel Pennys, New York needs leaders who take public safety seriously. Governor Hochul just announced that she's sending 250 National Guard members to patrol the subways. That's in addition to the 750 National Guard members she deployed in March, bringing the total to 1,000, with an estimated cost of $100 million.
https://nypost.com/2024/12/18/us-news/additional-250-national-guard-troops-will-flood-subways-to-keep-holiday-straphangers-safe-hochul-announces/
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/18/hochul-national-guard-subways-00195228
Local officials worth their salt wouldn't have allowed things to deteriorate to the point that the governor felt the need to send 1,000 National Guard members to patrol the subways.
I love this from the NY Post article: '“Subway crime is down 10% just since last March,” Hochul said. “Only two years since the year 1970 have we had fewer subway crimes than we had this past year.”'
So she deploys the National Guard (and installs video surveillance in every car) and then compares rates to past years. When it comes to comparison, it seems to me the deployment the of national guard changes an apple into an orange in a major way.
People are cherry-picking the data to support their positions. A NY Post article from September said homicides on the subway were up 60% for the year:
https://nypost.com/2024/09/14/us-news/murders-soar-60-on-nyc-subways-nearing-record/
To be fair, overall crime numbers on the subways seem to be down now that the governor has deployed 1,000 National Guard members in the subways and the NYPD deployed an additional 1,000 uniformed officers to patrol the subways in January, according to NBC New York:
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/subway-crime-nypd-update-police-plaza/5286151/
Ridership on the subways is still down compared to pre-pandemic levels, however, according to stats from the MTA:
https://metrics.mta.info/?ridership/daybydayridershipnumbers
Weekday traffic varies by day, but was down by more than 20% most days between November 20th and December 16th. Weekend traffic was better, but still down by 5-10%.
These are killer numbers, pun intended, if you're managing local and state budgets because low subway ridership is bad for business and results in lower tax revenues.
Well, there is always the Scott Adams rule, or segregating the subway cars, or my favorite, Bernie Goetz with a Poo Shiesty mask. That would certainly cut down on all the administrative paperwork necessary after such an event.
Remember the American soldiers who stepped in to stop a shooter on a European train? https://www.nationalguard.mil/News/Article-View/Article/614732/oregon-army-guard-member-stops-armed-attacker-on-french-train/#:~:text=%2D%20An%20Oregon%20Army%20National%20Guard,or%20combat%20with%20an%20enemy.
I hope there are some brave people around if I am ever in a similar situation.
What NYC, and most large cities need, is fewer Jordan Neelys, as a person who has been neglected by his family and by the system.
Excellent discussion.
Two quick points.
Yes, if Penny had been a policeman rather than Daniel, the ex-Marine, the reaction by both public and media would have been entirely different. In some ways that differential reaction would have been unfair, and tainted by the anti-police bias which has been regularly demonstrated over the last few year. But, in other ways, not. We would expect -- reasonably I would suggest -- that an armed & trained policeman would have had a variety of methods and tools available to him to subdue/restrain a lunatic Neely that are typically less life-threatening. (Thus the outrage at Derek Chauvin who evidently maintained his restraint when other methods and tools were indeed at hand). So yes, if a policeman had held Neely in a chokehold for X minutes in lieu of deploying any other less risky method of restraint, there would indeed have been a greater (and probably justifiable) outrage, along with a variety of subsequent questions like: why didn't you tase him? why didn't you handcuff him? why didn't you club him? Etc. Daniel Penny, of course, had none of those options available to him.
And yes, John's reaction to Penny's intervention (the ultimate consequence of which was Neely's death) was absolutely on target. For all us -- the vast American public -- who are not trained in physical confrontation...who have not engaged in violent conflict...who are not 6'4" and built like a linebacker (and even that, sometimes, is little protection)... the fact that there is a brave and capable individual in the here & now who is willing to risk injury/death to protect the rest of us is a great and wondrous thing. From the standpoint of the people on that car (and we all could have been on that car) Penny is a hero, who acted when the rest of us did not, or could not...placing himself in harm's way for our (the public's) benefit. He should have been honored. Instead he was arrested & prosecuted by the very State whose failure created the crisis that Penny resolved.
In the absence of that State sanctioned protection, all of us, each of us, is dependent upon our own ability to protect ourselves. Thank God that Penny was there to act on our behalf.
"While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' Tommy, fall be'ind,"
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind."
A few thoughts at the limit of my “right” —
The truth that we are only now being able to even speak out loud again: The greatness of our nation has very little to do with the Constitution or our form of government. The greatness of our nation stands because a plurality of strong men who, individually and collectively, taught their strong sons to protect the weak. Our fancy laws are all built atop that structure, and if the base falls, no law can be passed that will keep it standing. All of our cultural hero myths make clear what a man is, and what his duty is.
The consequences of this truth hurts the little ears and feelings of the delusional. The questions we have to answer are these: 1. have we reached the point of pain yet when we stop listening to the crying? 2. Is it too late to reinvigorate the tradition of greatness? 3. Can we convince majorities who are not of European descent to fully join the project? That they ARE welcome, that the race hustlers are lying by seeding the people with the idea that white people would never accept non-whites into our culture.
Aside: I exclude women from this analysis for god reason. Women’s roles in this process should be reinstated by women. As ever, for the common good the sexes should work together, separately.
Why. not. Otherwise just hand your keys to the woke because they will wind up with them eventually anyway.
We would hand them to the Woke....but for an instant....before they are taken by the Strong who would destroy us.