For the record, it does. The idea that all men = penis and all women = vagina is just demonstrably not true. I used to date a very kind Jewish man who lost his penis in a botched circumcision. His mother had a hysterectomy due to cancer. Are you to argue that Rivka is not a woman and Isaac is not a man? Well, you could define by the genitals one had at birth, but even that runs into issues, with the many birth complications and malformed genitals that can result from genetic errors.
Transgender doesn't mean you're "spitting in the face of reality". It means you wish for respect. Trans people aren't mentally disturbed or "changing genders on a whim".
And for the record, not wanting to date a transgender person is valid. Transgender YouTuber Noah Fince did a good video on the topic. Dating preferences are OK. Maybe you aren't into PiV. That's fine. Just don't whine about it on national tv about how you're *oppressed* because you're gay & don't want to have sex with a trans-man. I would, if he had a nice personality (not a chaser, haha) but if you wouldn't that is alright. Trans people understand that cis people can find their genitalia off-putting. If you wish to not have sex with trans people, then trans acceptance is actually good for you. Less trans people in the closet means less chance of an accidental "surprise". If trans people are allowed to live their true selves, then you will be able to see the guy flying a trans flag on Grindr and swipe left. For example, the oft-cited scenario of "trans widows" a woman (let's call her Suzy) who marries a man (Alex) who then transitions into a woman, and Suzy is no longer attracted to female-Alex. That is alright. But if you want to avoid that scenario, encourage trans people to come out early. If Alex had grown up in a trans-accepting household, a trans accepting society, then she would have revealed her identity earlier, and Suzy wouldn't have even found Alex sexually attractive in the first place, being a heterosexual woman. Trans acceptance benefits us all, even the transphobes. </rant>
LGB was easy to understand - it was just a matter of who they were attracted to. For the most part I interact with LGB folk the same way I interact with straights.
But the T+ advocacy IS different because the movement has attempted to encumber the rest of us. We are expected to not only accept and work with people who are making their gender identity the central focus of every relationship, every part of their lives, but people have lost their jobs for not using preferred pronouns - even when the pronoun didn't exist five minutes ago. We are expected to believe that trans women, with fully intact male bodies, who have been through puberty and have longer bones and more muscle mass than a typical female body, should be allowed to appear naked in female only facilities and to compete in female athletics. (Makes one question why we had separate athletic programs to begin with.) We are expected to believe that preteen youth are competent to decide to remove their breasts, or invert their penis (creating a false vagina that will need to be stretched every day for the rest of their life), or using drugs that will make them sterile (NOT reversibly). I heard someone suggest (with a straight face no less) that refusal to date a trans is transphobic and should be condemned. These issues are demonstrably different than not discriminating against LGB people.
Then we can talk about the devaluation of women. Trans women are winning beauty contests (ludicrously). They are being named woman of the year (instead of biological women who have lived the female reality their entire lives). I have a friend who sees this as the ultimate rebuttal of feminism. He says men do everything better than women and now they are even better women than women.
No, the advocacy of and issues surrounding the Trans/Non-binary/Gender-of-the-month-club are radically different than for LGB. Overlap between the groups and possible genetic causes are wild hares.
LGB are sexual orientations. Kinsey provided a scale that is useful = seven levels, from zero (pure heterosexual) to six (purely homosexual)). Everything's else ia a degree pf bisexuality. I am a Kinsey Scale one, for example, although I've never ac on my attraction to males.
T is completely separate. It deals with personal perception of self and has nothing to do with sexual orientation. A good friend, who is also a scientist, was very active in the Equal Rights for gays movement
He said that initially it was mutual attraction to drag and a search for allies that wedded T to LGB. He further told me that within a short time the Ts took over. The gay rights battle is over with a clear winner.
I hear echoes of a phrase I haven’t heard in a while: “the gay agenda.” Is it now “the trans agenda?”
While I do think a child who insists that their body is wrong for who they really are needs to have the benefit of objective medical and psychological counseling before radical steps are taken, and while it’s true that many children go through phases where they wonder about their assigned gender, this is no reason to discredit either all transgender people or the concept itself.
The National Academy of Science disproved the idea that homosexuality is a choice by demonstrating the role of the hypothalamus in sexual attraction. Further research at the VU University Medical Center in Amsterdam and the Netherlands Institute for Neuroscience has shown corresponding differences in youths with gender dysphoria.
“The gays” never all got together to plot anything.
“The trans people” are not all getting together to mastermind some kind of overthrow of accepted norms.
I’m sorry for people who are so inflexible and whose understanding is so shallow that their world seems torn apart when they encounter people who are different from them. That doesn’t give them the right to control other people’s lives.
Your post proves that LGB and T people should stick together, because, whether you realize it or not, the accusations you made against transgender people are nearly identical to those that have been made against lesbian, gay and bisexual people for decades.
LGBT people have been accused of going against science; that living their lives as they choose is somehow a threat to the rest of society; and that those who might be labeled "homophobe" or "transphobe" for making homophobic or transphobic comments are the real victims.
There is no power grab by transgender or gay people. Being trans is not a choice any more than being gay is a choice. LGBT people exist in the world, and their existence does not diminish anyone else's.
In the future reversible sex change kits will be all the rage. One who is nominally male may experience what it means to be a woman, or vice versa —as no power of empathy can possibly equal—and be back by dinner time.
I was in the East Village studying at The Cooper Union from 72 -76 and all of this stuff was around in the Lower East Side ....lots of Trannies ( as they were called) walking the streets servicing guys in cars. Also crack head zombies in traffic washing windows ..... 50 years later people are still transfixed by this. Americans sadly are voyeurs causing an oversupply of oversexed narcissists ( porn star?)who supply the same images . Their moms must be so proud.
It is undeniable that there has been an explosion of children having non gender conforming issues and that this has been promoted by an agenda that seeks to destabilize traditional values based on biologic sex which is binary. We have seen this in what is being taught to the children, what is being fed in academia, attempts at modification of our basic language, the mass social contagion that has occurred and the quickness with which the medical field is ready to affirm these doubts promulgated by gender activists in the first place. We are having irreversible damage done to our kids under our watch. This is absolutely true. To understand what is going on I suggest you watch the playlist the Trans human agenda, to see what, how and why this is going on. We definitely have to fight this.
On the other side of the coin, are those individuals who had gender dysphoria way before any sociopolitical agenda, who were evaluated extensively by psychologists and treated for their dysphoria. Some even transition to be able to cope better with their lives. They still exist, and others like them still exist and will still exist even if the Transhuman agenda is defeated. And we can’t make enemies out of them, nor destroy their lives while we attempt to combat the Transhuman agenda. They have a right to exist as do any other people with mental disorders. And as many people who learn to cope with their disorders and live fruitful lives, they should be permitted to do so. While we don’t have to accept ideological claims that they are biologically the sex they identify with, so long as it doesn’t infringe on the rights of others, by forcing language on them, by diminishing their own identities (i.e. birthing parent instead of mother), by forcing medicine to deny biologic reality, or by allowing biologic males to compete with biologic females just because of their identity, we should still accommodate them in all ways that do not infringe on other people’s rights.
If we defeat the Transhuman agenda, we still will have children who have possible gender dysphoria, who, even if we don’t push them into identifying as trans, who through many years of evaluation and exploring all alternatives, still, at an age when they have full mental capacity to do so, will feel that fully immersing themselves into the opposite sex identity is the only thing that works for them. And once they do, we should not seek to destroy them for it. We don’t have to accept them as a new biologic sex just because they identify as such, but we can accept that it is ok for them to do so if it makes them happier.
Once this much smaller pool of true gender dysphoric people exists, and for those who, as consenting adults, chose to transition their bodies to better fit their self-image, accommodations should be made like that of any other person with a disorder. They should be able to live as normal a life as they can. If a person of their same bio sex is willing to accept them as functionally being the opposite sex and marries them, we should respect that. If that couple chooses to adopt, and they pass a rigorous evaluation to see if they are fit to be parents, we should respect that. And if a transgender woman chooses to adopt and passes all rigorous evaluations showing she is fit to adopt, then she should be able to be an adoptive transgender mother. This is not to say that we are doing what they are trying to do now, where we have to deny science and accept that a biologic man can now be identified as a biologic mother, or that transgender men can become biologic women, but in the same way we accept women who can’t have babies and adopt, and we call them adoptive mothers, or step mother, or foster mothers, all not truly biologic mothers to the child, but we accept them as participating in that role. In the same manner, those that choose to do so, and have passed all evaluations that say they are fit to do so, should be allowed to be, and be called mothers to the children they adopt. And any other female role they choose to partake in that is not in direct competition with their biologic counter parts. Same for transgender men.
True, but there are trans adults (Gender dysphoria). Psychological disorders. If childhood and adolescence. Normal childhood and adolescence, not affirming BS, hasn't assuaged them, you seek help.
These people had already accumulated a load of mental issues before jumping to the conclusion that a sex change will solve all of their problems. This is just one example from a video on YT last year. A trans couple somehow had a baby. (The poor little thing.) Long story short, the "mommy" who was a biological male had been looking forward ever so much to nursing "her" baby. When "she" discovered that she could not nurse a baby she was devastated and whined about having been cheated. The camera captured "her" breakdown and someone upped it to YT. It was probably the "father" who is a biological female.
We are allowing insane people to bully the other 99% of the population into playing along with the former's delusions. We are being forced to lie by using their pronouns, mangle the rules of grammar, destroy women's sports, and allow creepy men to strut around naked in women's changing rooms.
I don't know anyone IRL who isn't outraged by this nonsense.
I’m in shock that your wife is still a leftie- does she not see the harm they have caused in this country - specially in inner cities? I was a leftist - the more research and Thomas sowell I watched the more disgusted I became - yikes
Pregnancy Outcomes in a US Cohort of Transgender People
Transgender, nonbinary, and gender diverse (trans) people have worse health outcomes than cisgender individuals. Trans individuals can and do become pregnant,1 but there are limited data regarding pregnancy outcomes. Prenatal care access barriers,2 minority stress and stigma,3 and prior or ongoing use of testosterone may place trans people at heightened risk of perinatal complications. We evaluated pregnancy outcomes among commercially and publicly insured trans people.
Pregnancy is possible for transgender men who retain functioning ovaries and a uterus, such as in the case of Thomas Beatie. Regardless of prior hormone replacement therapy (HRT) treatments, the progression of pregnancy and birthing procedures are typically the same as those of cisgender women
Beatie had gender reassignment surgery in March 2002 and became known as "the pregnant man" after he became pregnant through artificial insemination in 2007. Beatie chose to be pregnant because his wife Nancy was infertile, doing so with donated sperm
We can start expecting to see zombies in the not too far away future. F with nature and it eventually F’s back and that is a 💯 % truth and fact!!! Trans men who claim a woman who want to reproduce can like it or lump it, I don’t really care if they do or don’t like it either!!!
Biological men having and wanting to reproduce 😂😂😂😂. Wondering why can’t breastfeed 😂😂😂😂
You are correct, we do interfere with nature and way more than we should and have for centuries. Just look at our planet and some of the people out there.
The field of medicine has been great in many ways, but it has also caused a lot of issues and still does to this day. We don't know the half of the negative either, as of course so much is hidden!! A lot of mistakes and horrible outcomes.
A lot of pill pushing, vaccines, etc. these days and not are all are great. Sometimes we put things in our body because a doctor says it is good or our government. Doesn't even go through proper trials. Years later banned and has caused huge issues and death! Big money made by big Pharma and people in the medical field. Also look at some of these bio-labs today, lol!!!
As I mentioned above look at some of the people out there, the mental illness, the birth defects, the simple minded, the substance abuse. Some people just should not have children and especially if it is not meant to be!!! A lot of issues pass down generation to generation as well.
I am sorry if it offends but I find it odd and don't like that a man turns into a woman and thinks should reproduce. Doesn't mean other people can't have their opinion though or not agree with me. Doesn't mean I hate these men that do this. I just believe it is not right and mark my words there will be issues with the offspring down the road. I do not and will never support it either. Likely all those zombie movies out there, are not too far off.
Yes there are many infertile women and impotent men in this world but also many factors make it so. Look at what many eat, have ingested in their body, the products they put on their face and body, the pills, the alcohol abuse, the pollution, STD's, foreign objects put into their body that are not natural and cause a lot of issues.
Yes some unfortunately have issues with their body make up and that is sad for biological women and men that do. I understand some wanting their own baby so bad but if a chance that a baby is not going to be normal, healthy and live best life possible that I think it is self centred and not thinking of the child's life.
What may I ask does not being able to breast feed have to do with this conversation? Because men that turn into women can't breast feed ? No comparison in my mind. Again this is all my opinion and everyone has one.
These people have accumulated a load of mental issues before jumping to the conclusion that a sex change will solve all of their problems. This is just one example from a video on YT last year. A trans couple somehow had a baby. (The poor little thing.) Long story short, the "mommy" who was a biological male had been looking forward ever so much to nursing "her" baby. When "she" discovered that she could not nurse a baby she was devastated and whined about having been cheated. The camera captured "her" breakdown and someone upped it to YT. It was probably the "father" who is a biological male.
We are allowing insane people to bully the other 99% of the population into playing along with the former's delusions.
We can start expecting to see zombies in the not too far away future. F with nature and it eventually F’s back and that is a 💯 % truth and fact!!! Trans men who claim a woman who want to reproduce can like it or lump it, I don’t really care if they do or don’t like it either!!!
Biological men having and wanting to reproduce 😂😂😂😂. Wondering why can’t breastfeed 😂😂😂😂!
Lot of women would like babies of their own, but a lot are smart enough to know it not a good idea for selves to reproduce!!!
Self centred people who know not a good idea, don’t give a F about anyone else, nor even a baby!! All about them and their needs and wants!!!!!!! Attention too!!! I want a baby, I want to reproduce and who cares how child turns out!!!! Sickening and evil!!!
I have a -sadly- former good friend who demanded I support the Pride parades and wear a Pride button to show my support. I told her I won't follow her demands. She is no longer a good friend. . .it's too bad. 10% of the population has aberrant sexual proclivities and they're free to think and act as they choose. I'm a member of the 90 percent.
How do you feel about being coerced into lying? When 6'5", 300 lb Bluto Blutarsky insists that you refer to him as she/her, does it create a moral problem for you?
With each passing year, the transtrenders feel less obligation to make any effort to present as the sex they claim to be. Place yourself in a common situation where you work in a retail store and one day address Bluto as a male. There's at least a 50% chance you will be fired over your mistake.
How about the pathetic practice of including your pronouns in your email and other communications? Would you comply with a directive from HR to do so?
I could go on about mentally ill people have taken over society.
I’ve had interactions with transgender people face to face. No pronoun problems thus far. I have not heard of transgender bathroom issues. I haven’t heard of firings. Has Bluto caused harm in your life?
Try speaking up honestly about this insanity. Then kiss your life goodbye when a mob starts canceling you and pressures your employer to cut you loose. In some states now if your confused teens tells you that it wants a sex change and you don't immediately affirm their gender decision, the government will take the kid out of your home and even fine you in some cases.
I appreciate the link. As I said, I really don’t focus mainly on trans issues.
Among the kids being ripped from homes I see
Republican lawmakers in Florida have sparked outrage after passing a bill that LGBTQ advocates say will strip trans children from their parents' custody.
SB254 — which one former lawmaker has called "fascist" legislation — would allow the state to rip children from their parents when they are "at risk" or "subjected" to gender-affirming health care. The bill is written so that even a child of Floridian parents living out of state could trigger the law.
Indiana’s Republican governor signed into law a bill that bans discussion of “human sexuality” in schools and could out transgender students to their families.
The state’s H.B. 1608 requires school officials to provide written notification to a child’s parent or guardian within five business days of the child asking to be called a different “pronoun, title, or word,” the Associated Press reports. It also bans discussion of “human sexuality” in pre-K through third grade.
At face value, I would say that parents have the right to determine what happens to their child. If a state is removing a child to allow transgender surgery, I would want many steps to be gone through before the removal. If the state is removing a child to prevent a parents decision that transgender surgery is the right thing for their child, I would want multiple steps to happen before that removal was allowed. My position on the issue is that transgender surgery should be a matter between surgeon, psychiatrist/psychiatrist, and patient. My limited attention to transgender issues has considered adults and not children.
Regarding children, I see on easy answers. If there is a good parent-child relationship, I would say the parent, not the state should be in control. If there is a poor parent child relationship, things will be messy and the state will need to intervene.
You are closer to correct there Jake, but they don't have the "passion" that the stars of Fox have. They do smirk and laugh at the left, I'll concede that.
I have to admit that I love being on Twitter and giving the left jabs and pointing out their hypocrisy. I do this with coffee in the morning while watching Newsmax, but I will also admit I mute it when Joe, KJP or Kamala are being shown.
For the record, it does. The idea that all men = penis and all women = vagina is just demonstrably not true. I used to date a very kind Jewish man who lost his penis in a botched circumcision. His mother had a hysterectomy due to cancer. Are you to argue that Rivka is not a woman and Isaac is not a man? Well, you could define by the genitals one had at birth, but even that runs into issues, with the many birth complications and malformed genitals that can result from genetic errors.
Transgender doesn't mean you're "spitting in the face of reality". It means you wish for respect. Trans people aren't mentally disturbed or "changing genders on a whim".
And for the record, not wanting to date a transgender person is valid. Transgender YouTuber Noah Fince did a good video on the topic. Dating preferences are OK. Maybe you aren't into PiV. That's fine. Just don't whine about it on national tv about how you're *oppressed* because you're gay & don't want to have sex with a trans-man. I would, if he had a nice personality (not a chaser, haha) but if you wouldn't that is alright. Trans people understand that cis people can find their genitalia off-putting. If you wish to not have sex with trans people, then trans acceptance is actually good for you. Less trans people in the closet means less chance of an accidental "surprise". If trans people are allowed to live their true selves, then you will be able to see the guy flying a trans flag on Grindr and swipe left. For example, the oft-cited scenario of "trans widows" a woman (let's call her Suzy) who marries a man (Alex) who then transitions into a woman, and Suzy is no longer attracted to female-Alex. That is alright. But if you want to avoid that scenario, encourage trans people to come out early. If Alex had grown up in a trans-accepting household, a trans accepting society, then she would have revealed her identity earlier, and Suzy wouldn't have even found Alex sexually attractive in the first place, being a heterosexual woman. Trans acceptance benefits us all, even the transphobes. </rant>
LGB was easy to understand - it was just a matter of who they were attracted to. For the most part I interact with LGB folk the same way I interact with straights.
But the T+ advocacy IS different because the movement has attempted to encumber the rest of us. We are expected to not only accept and work with people who are making their gender identity the central focus of every relationship, every part of their lives, but people have lost their jobs for not using preferred pronouns - even when the pronoun didn't exist five minutes ago. We are expected to believe that trans women, with fully intact male bodies, who have been through puberty and have longer bones and more muscle mass than a typical female body, should be allowed to appear naked in female only facilities and to compete in female athletics. (Makes one question why we had separate athletic programs to begin with.) We are expected to believe that preteen youth are competent to decide to remove their breasts, or invert their penis (creating a false vagina that will need to be stretched every day for the rest of their life), or using drugs that will make them sterile (NOT reversibly). I heard someone suggest (with a straight face no less) that refusal to date a trans is transphobic and should be condemned. These issues are demonstrably different than not discriminating against LGB people.
Then we can talk about the devaluation of women. Trans women are winning beauty contests (ludicrously). They are being named woman of the year (instead of biological women who have lived the female reality their entire lives). I have a friend who sees this as the ultimate rebuttal of feminism. He says men do everything better than women and now they are even better women than women.
No, the advocacy of and issues surrounding the Trans/Non-binary/Gender-of-the-month-club are radically different than for LGB. Overlap between the groups and possible genetic causes are wild hares.
This is not complicated.
LGB are sexual orientations. Kinsey provided a scale that is useful = seven levels, from zero (pure heterosexual) to six (purely homosexual)). Everything's else ia a degree pf bisexuality. I am a Kinsey Scale one, for example, although I've never ac on my attraction to males.
T is completely separate. It deals with personal perception of self and has nothing to do with sexual orientation. A good friend, who is also a scientist, was very active in the Equal Rights for gays movement
He said that initially it was mutual attraction to drag and a search for allies that wedded T to LGB. He further told me that within a short time the Ts took over. The gay rights battle is over with a clear winner.
Political? A power grab?
I hear echoes of a phrase I haven’t heard in a while: “the gay agenda.” Is it now “the trans agenda?”
While I do think a child who insists that their body is wrong for who they really are needs to have the benefit of objective medical and psychological counseling before radical steps are taken, and while it’s true that many children go through phases where they wonder about their assigned gender, this is no reason to discredit either all transgender people or the concept itself.
The National Academy of Science disproved the idea that homosexuality is a choice by demonstrating the role of the hypothalamus in sexual attraction. Further research at the VU University Medical Center in Amsterdam and the Netherlands Institute for Neuroscience has shown corresponding differences in youths with gender dysphoria.
“The gays” never all got together to plot anything.
“The trans people” are not all getting together to mastermind some kind of overthrow of accepted norms.
I’m sorry for people who are so inflexible and whose understanding is so shallow that their world seems torn apart when they encounter people who are different from them. That doesn’t give them the right to control other people’s lives.
For the record, I’m a het/cis woman.
Your post proves that LGB and T people should stick together, because, whether you realize it or not, the accusations you made against transgender people are nearly identical to those that have been made against lesbian, gay and bisexual people for decades.
LGBT people have been accused of going against science; that living their lives as they choose is somehow a threat to the rest of society; and that those who might be labeled "homophobe" or "transphobe" for making homophobic or transphobic comments are the real victims.
There is no power grab by transgender or gay people. Being trans is not a choice any more than being gay is a choice. LGBT people exist in the world, and their existence does not diminish anyone else's.
In the future reversible sex change kits will be all the rage. One who is nominally male may experience what it means to be a woman, or vice versa —as no power of empathy can possibly equal—and be back by dinner time.
I was in the East Village studying at The Cooper Union from 72 -76 and all of this stuff was around in the Lower East Side ....lots of Trannies ( as they were called) walking the streets servicing guys in cars. Also crack head zombies in traffic washing windows ..... 50 years later people are still transfixed by this. Americans sadly are voyeurs causing an oversupply of oversexed narcissists ( porn star?)who supply the same images . Their moms must be so proud.
There were no crackheads in 1976, because crack hadn't been invented yet.
What were they smoking ?
Angela dust.
Angel
PCB yes
Douglas Murray hits the nail on the head when he says there is no such thing as an LGBT...LMNOP "community."
Glenn Loury - you are not a "conservative" if you think homosexual marriage is even possible. Conservatives know what marriage is, you don't.
Being reactionary does not make one a conservative, sir.
T - true T people - are a rounding error. I would think the LGB folks are getting a little tired of T canibalizing their numbers.
A few thoughts on our current gender craze.
It is undeniable that there has been an explosion of children having non gender conforming issues and that this has been promoted by an agenda that seeks to destabilize traditional values based on biologic sex which is binary. We have seen this in what is being taught to the children, what is being fed in academia, attempts at modification of our basic language, the mass social contagion that has occurred and the quickness with which the medical field is ready to affirm these doubts promulgated by gender activists in the first place. We are having irreversible damage done to our kids under our watch. This is absolutely true. To understand what is going on I suggest you watch the playlist the Trans human agenda, to see what, how and why this is going on. We definitely have to fight this.
On the other side of the coin, are those individuals who had gender dysphoria way before any sociopolitical agenda, who were evaluated extensively by psychologists and treated for their dysphoria. Some even transition to be able to cope better with their lives. They still exist, and others like them still exist and will still exist even if the Transhuman agenda is defeated. And we can’t make enemies out of them, nor destroy their lives while we attempt to combat the Transhuman agenda. They have a right to exist as do any other people with mental disorders. And as many people who learn to cope with their disorders and live fruitful lives, they should be permitted to do so. While we don’t have to accept ideological claims that they are biologically the sex they identify with, so long as it doesn’t infringe on the rights of others, by forcing language on them, by diminishing their own identities (i.e. birthing parent instead of mother), by forcing medicine to deny biologic reality, or by allowing biologic males to compete with biologic females just because of their identity, we should still accommodate them in all ways that do not infringe on other people’s rights.
If we defeat the Transhuman agenda, we still will have children who have possible gender dysphoria, who, even if we don’t push them into identifying as trans, who through many years of evaluation and exploring all alternatives, still, at an age when they have full mental capacity to do so, will feel that fully immersing themselves into the opposite sex identity is the only thing that works for them. And once they do, we should not seek to destroy them for it. We don’t have to accept them as a new biologic sex just because they identify as such, but we can accept that it is ok for them to do so if it makes them happier.
Once this much smaller pool of true gender dysphoric people exists, and for those who, as consenting adults, chose to transition their bodies to better fit their self-image, accommodations should be made like that of any other person with a disorder. They should be able to live as normal a life as they can. If a person of their same bio sex is willing to accept them as functionally being the opposite sex and marries them, we should respect that. If that couple chooses to adopt, and they pass a rigorous evaluation to see if they are fit to be parents, we should respect that. And if a transgender woman chooses to adopt and passes all rigorous evaluations showing she is fit to adopt, then she should be able to be an adoptive transgender mother. This is not to say that we are doing what they are trying to do now, where we have to deny science and accept that a biologic man can now be identified as a biologic mother, or that transgender men can become biologic women, but in the same way we accept women who can’t have babies and adopt, and we call them adoptive mothers, or step mother, or foster mothers, all not truly biologic mothers to the child, but we accept them as participating in that role. In the same manner, those that choose to do so, and have passed all evaluations that say they are fit to do so, should be allowed to be, and be called mothers to the children they adopt. And any other female role they choose to partake in that is not in direct competition with their biologic counter parts. Same for transgender men.
There are no trans children. There are only Democrat women transing their children.
True, but there are trans adults (Gender dysphoria). Psychological disorders. If childhood and adolescence. Normal childhood and adolescence, not affirming BS, hasn't assuaged them, you seek help.
The teachers. Its the f-ing teachers.
These people had already accumulated a load of mental issues before jumping to the conclusion that a sex change will solve all of their problems. This is just one example from a video on YT last year. A trans couple somehow had a baby. (The poor little thing.) Long story short, the "mommy" who was a biological male had been looking forward ever so much to nursing "her" baby. When "she" discovered that she could not nurse a baby she was devastated and whined about having been cheated. The camera captured "her" breakdown and someone upped it to YT. It was probably the "father" who is a biological female.
We are allowing insane people to bully the other 99% of the population into playing along with the former's delusions. We are being forced to lie by using their pronouns, mangle the rules of grammar, destroy women's sports, and allow creepy men to strut around naked in women's changing rooms.
I don't know anyone IRL who isn't outraged by this nonsense.
I’m in shock that your wife is still a leftie- does she not see the harm they have caused in this country - specially in inner cities? I was a leftist - the more research and Thomas sowell I watched the more disgusted I became - yikes
Pregnancy Outcomes in a US Cohort of Transgender People
Transgender, nonbinary, and gender diverse (trans) people have worse health outcomes than cisgender individuals. Trans individuals can and do become pregnant,1 but there are limited data regarding pregnancy outcomes. Prenatal care access barriers,2 minority stress and stigma,3 and prior or ongoing use of testosterone may place trans people at heightened risk of perinatal complications. We evaluated pregnancy outcomes among commercially and publicly insured trans people.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2805062?guestAccessKey=573518d5-6baa-49ba-a5f3-224d2bf66986&utm_source=silverchair&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=article_alert-jama&utm_content=olf&utm_term=051123
Are you saying a trans-woman (aka 'man') can become pregnant?
Pregnancy is possible for transgender men who retain functioning ovaries and a uterus, such as in the case of Thomas Beatie. Regardless of prior hormone replacement therapy (HRT) treatments, the progression of pregnancy and birthing procedures are typically the same as those of cisgender women
Beatie had gender reassignment surgery in March 2002 and became known as "the pregnant man" after he became pregnant through artificial insemination in 2007. Beatie chose to be pregnant because his wife Nancy was infertile, doing so with donated sperm
We can start expecting to see zombies in the not too far away future. F with nature and it eventually F’s back and that is a 💯 % truth and fact!!! Trans men who claim a woman who want to reproduce can like it or lump it, I don’t really care if they do or don’t like it either!!!
Biological men having and wanting to reproduce 😂😂😂😂. Wondering why can’t breastfeed 😂😂😂😂
We interfere with nature everyday. The field of medicine is about countering nature. Physicians treat infertile women and impotent men.
Edit to add:
There are XX women unable to breast feed.
You are correct, we do interfere with nature and way more than we should and have for centuries. Just look at our planet and some of the people out there.
The field of medicine has been great in many ways, but it has also caused a lot of issues and still does to this day. We don't know the half of the negative either, as of course so much is hidden!! A lot of mistakes and horrible outcomes.
A lot of pill pushing, vaccines, etc. these days and not are all are great. Sometimes we put things in our body because a doctor says it is good or our government. Doesn't even go through proper trials. Years later banned and has caused huge issues and death! Big money made by big Pharma and people in the medical field. Also look at some of these bio-labs today, lol!!!
As I mentioned above look at some of the people out there, the mental illness, the birth defects, the simple minded, the substance abuse. Some people just should not have children and especially if it is not meant to be!!! A lot of issues pass down generation to generation as well.
I am sorry if it offends but I find it odd and don't like that a man turns into a woman and thinks should reproduce. Doesn't mean other people can't have their opinion though or not agree with me. Doesn't mean I hate these men that do this. I just believe it is not right and mark my words there will be issues with the offspring down the road. I do not and will never support it either. Likely all those zombie movies out there, are not too far off.
Yes there are many infertile women and impotent men in this world but also many factors make it so. Look at what many eat, have ingested in their body, the products they put on their face and body, the pills, the alcohol abuse, the pollution, STD's, foreign objects put into their body that are not natural and cause a lot of issues.
Yes some unfortunately have issues with their body make up and that is sad for biological women and men that do. I understand some wanting their own baby so bad but if a chance that a baby is not going to be normal, healthy and live best life possible that I think it is self centred and not thinking of the child's life.
What may I ask does not being able to breast feed have to do with this conversation? Because men that turn into women can't breast feed ? No comparison in my mind. Again this is all my opinion and everyone has one.
I brought up the breast feeding issue in response to your comment.
I am thankful for the advances maces in treatment of infections, cancer, heart disease, etc.
I am also grateful for the surgeries that can be performed to correct congenital abnormalities.
Medicines are abandoned as better therapies are created.
These people have accumulated a load of mental issues before jumping to the conclusion that a sex change will solve all of their problems. This is just one example from a video on YT last year. A trans couple somehow had a baby. (The poor little thing.) Long story short, the "mommy" who was a biological male had been looking forward ever so much to nursing "her" baby. When "she" discovered that she could not nurse a baby she was devastated and whined about having been cheated. The camera captured "her" breakdown and someone upped it to YT. It was probably the "father" who is a biological male.
We are allowing insane people to bully the other 99% of the population into playing along with the former's delusions.
We can start expecting to see zombies in the not too far away future. F with nature and it eventually F’s back and that is a 💯 % truth and fact!!! Trans men who claim a woman who want to reproduce can like it or lump it, I don’t really care if they do or don’t like it either!!!
Biological men having and wanting to reproduce 😂😂😂😂. Wondering why can’t breastfeed 😂😂😂😂!
Lot of women would like babies of their own, but a lot are smart enough to know it not a good idea for selves to reproduce!!!
Self centred people who know not a good idea, don’t give a F about anyone else, nor even a baby!! All about them and their needs and wants!!!!!!! Attention too!!! I want a baby, I want to reproduce and who cares how child turns out!!!! Sickening and evil!!!
How precisely are you personally being bullied?
I have a -sadly- former good friend who demanded I support the Pride parades and wear a Pride button to show my support. I told her I won't follow her demands. She is no longer a good friend. . .it's too bad. 10% of the population has aberrant sexual proclivities and they're free to think and act as they choose. I'm a member of the 90 percent.
If you are asked to do something you are not comfortable with, you are right to refuse.
How do you feel about being coerced into lying? When 6'5", 300 lb Bluto Blutarsky insists that you refer to him as she/her, does it create a moral problem for you?
With each passing year, the transtrenders feel less obligation to make any effort to present as the sex they claim to be. Place yourself in a common situation where you work in a retail store and one day address Bluto as a male. There's at least a 50% chance you will be fired over your mistake.
How about the pathetic practice of including your pronouns in your email and other communications? Would you comply with a directive from HR to do so?
I could go on about mentally ill people have taken over society.
I’ve had interactions with transgender people face to face. No pronoun problems thus far. I have not heard of transgender bathroom issues. I haven’t heard of firings. Has Bluto caused harm in your life?
Ok I get it. You're trying to be a funny guy.
Haha.
Happy now?
Try speaking up honestly about this insanity. Then kiss your life goodbye when a mob starts canceling you and pressures your employer to cut you loose. In some states now if your confused teens tells you that it wants a sex change and you don't immediately affirm their gender decision, the government will take the kid out of your home and even fine you in some cases.
Do I need to go on?
Can you provide a source for the government taking kids out of a home? I admit to not being focused on everything transgender.
I really shouldn't have the unpaid responsibility for educating you on the matter. There is plenty of info online available through a quick search.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=stateswhich+remove+trans+kids+from+parents&atb=v359-1&ia=web
I appreciate the link. As I said, I really don’t focus mainly on trans issues.
Among the kids being ripped from homes I see
Republican lawmakers in Florida have sparked outrage after passing a bill that LGBTQ advocates say will strip trans children from their parents' custody.
SB254 — which one former lawmaker has called "fascist" legislation — would allow the state to rip children from their parents when they are "at risk" or "subjected" to gender-affirming health care. The bill is written so that even a child of Floridian parents living out of state could trigger the law.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/florida-republicans-trans-kids-parents-bill-b2323714.html
And
Indiana’s Republican governor signed into law a bill that bans discussion of “human sexuality” in schools and could out transgender students to their families.
The state’s H.B. 1608 requires school officials to provide written notification to a child’s parent or guardian within five business days of the child asking to be called a different “pronoun, title, or word,” the Associated Press reports. It also bans discussion of “human sexuality” in pre-K through third grade.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/indiana-governor-signs-dont-say-gay-bill-that-forces-teachers-to-out-trans-kids-to-their-parents/ar-AA1aMRJe
At face value, I would say that parents have the right to determine what happens to their child. If a state is removing a child to allow transgender surgery, I would want many steps to be gone through before the removal. If the state is removing a child to prevent a parents decision that transgender surgery is the right thing for their child, I would want multiple steps to happen before that removal was allowed. My position on the issue is that transgender surgery should be a matter between surgeon, psychiatrist/psychiatrist, and patient. My limited attention to transgender issues has considered adults and not children.
Regarding children, I see on easy answers. If there is a good parent-child relationship, I would say the parent, not the state should be in control. If there is a poor parent child relationship, things will be messy and the state will need to intervene.
Yes FT, that is Bill Gate's passion and he's spending/donating millions on this.
One wonders if this was just one component of the Plandemic.
You are closer to correct there Jake, but they don't have the "passion" that the stars of Fox have. They do smirk and laugh at the left, I'll concede that.
I have to admit that I love being on Twitter and giving the left jabs and pointing out their hypocrisy. I do this with coffee in the morning while watching Newsmax, but I will also admit I mute it when Joe, KJP or Kamala are being shown.