with John McWhorter
This is honestly one of the dumbest things I have ever seen someone do in public. If Scott Adams actually knew any black people, he would know that poll is basically worthless, but since he doesn't, he relied on it. If he knew black people, he could have asked himself, "hmmmm, do I believe this poll? Or may it be flawed?"
I had heard about that poll before Scott immolated himself and thought it was ridiculous. It certainly didn't match up with my life experience.
Who was the sample? How many people were asked? You can go into a race studies class in some woke college and maybe get those numbers, maybe, but do a cross section of the black population and see what you get. It won't look anything like this stupid inaccurate poll that this self absorbed "thinker" relied on to make some point, of which still eludes me.
One thing though, white people often do move into black neighborhoods. I lived in West Oakland for quite some time and I enjoyed it and never once, ever, was I accosted by a black person, approached angrily by a black person or have any other negative encounters.
The problem though is, when white people move into prominently black communities, they get accused of "gentrification". I never was personally by anyone, but I know that criticism is out there.
I would advise everyone to not listen to Scott Adams. There is little more dangerous in this world than someone half as smart as they think they are. Usually, that is called "adolescence", but in this case, bizarre hubris backed up by misinterpreted information.
Full disclosure, I subscribe to his video podcast and viewed the original video live.
To be fair: Black Americans DO experience racism and prejudice. Especially low-income urban areas. They generally get roughed up more often, physically assaulted, etc. But not murdered by cops. Rarely. Roland Fryer’s work here is interesting. The police murder of black men is much more complex and is largely a myth. Plenty of poor whites are killed by cops we just never hear it on MSM. Think how many black Americans got away with murder in the past few years. Remember that guy who drive his car through the parade in Wisconsin? Yeah. Exactly. Media barely touched it. Killed a little white boy.
This might intrigue you: https://blacksnakeofvanity.substack.com/p/white-supremacy
All this talk about blacks, but no one is talking about the "other" group. 41% of them think its not ok or aren't sure if its ok to be white. Maybe we should stay away from "others" as well. Or maybe we should just lump everyone who doesn't look like us together, consider them all "others" and then treat them with suspicion and contempt. I wonder if thats been tried before.
But there are also some whites in our midst who think its not ok to be white or aren't sure. And if I do the math, there are actually more whites who believe that then blacks! 20% of 63% of the population is almost 13%. So as many white people believe that as there are total black people in the country! We cant trust the whites either. Maybe we should just lock ourselves inside to be safe.
But what if one of the whites who believes this is in our family?! The hate could be coming from inside the house! I might have to build a safe room
With Ibram X Kendi's Marxist nonsense entering the education system, it should be no surprise that people think everything is racist.
I disagree with Scott Adams on many if not most things, but he’s no racist. Like many of us, he has black friends with a sense of humor and who aren’t into wokeness, and sometimes this can lead one to say hyperbolic things with them in private (or on a private blog) that one would not say in public.
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Then part of the problem is the poll is being presented inaccurately in the press.
According to the same poll 66% of Black people agree with the statement that Black people can be racist: http://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1629886078298603520/photo/1 . Interestingly, Scott Adams did not mention it, probably because it does not fit his narrative on these hateful Blacks whites should get away from...
I found this Adams controversy interesting, in the sense that every survey I've seen on UK or America shows white people prefer white-majority neighborhoods, and they leave as neighborhoods diversify in droves. Its not about crime, because it happens where you had Asian and Hispanic influx in Atlanta without rising crime. Everyone is upset about what Adams said, but no one wants to talk about the fact that what Adams said is what white people actually do. Its as if there is some silent agreement that no one will notice white people moving away so long as white people don't state why they are doing so.
I disagree that Adams is going to set off some chain reaction. Its already happening. Further, its not clear that its really a political problem, more diversity, more white flight, so what. It would only be a problem if the whites suddenly decided to stay and fight, but even that would be manageable if whites were a distinct minority, just give them their own reservation at that point, and make sure they were well supplied with mayonnaise to prevent riots.
Adams is frequently insincere in his comments. Apologizing for example one day to unvaxxed people, then hours later, mocking them with satire, saying they're always right on everything, and that he's always wrong. The guy is a trained hypnotist. He's written books on persuasion. He has a nihilistic bent. He also asked his followers how he should quit and gave them a poll choice between something quiet vs him saying more and more "uncomfortably true things" until he gets cancelled. The latter won. He maybe trying to create the reaction so he can then later make a point out of it.
What happened, broadly speaking, is the Clinton/DNC machine sold out to the corporate class. And then traded middle class values (votes) for identity politics, etc, which was/is WAYYY cheaper, and easy to do by aligning with Academia (at least in the soft sciences), which gave the illusion of Liberalism (the JS Mill type) while actually folding to the critical theory BS we see now. And, for the most part, both Blacks and Whites both bought that garbage with enthusiasm. Blacks got a sense of empowerment/entitlement, resulting in a 'dont criticize my behavior/choices...I am OPPRESSED!'; and 'liberal' Whites got to agree while doing nothing to actually help anyone but themselves. Real Leftists saw this coming a long time ago. Now our political process is a fucking trainwreck, we have been at constant war for 2+ decades, we are bleeding $$$ while increasing debt exponentially, and we are weak, desperate and ungovernable, so will do ANYTHING to look the other way while the whole thing crumbles.
Well this one got a lot of engagement! I think there are 2 interesting points (3 if we count the comments). The first is the idea that speech such as Adams must be shut down lest it influences others in that direction. That is not, in and of itself, an obviously invalid argument. However it is principally the same argument as "violent video games cause violence" or "lyrics glorifying gang culture influence kids towards crime". To make the argument in one direction and dismiss it in the other is some discordant thinking and a subtle hypocrisy that I don't think should be allowed to go unchallenged. Not that woke ideology is starved for hypocrisies, but it should be addressed.
The second point is one that I feel like I bring up in every comment I make, but that is that much of the animus surrounding race comes from equating "black" with "poor and urban" in the context of culture. I don't want to stay away from black people, I want to stay away from urban poor. I would - and do - happily pay money to be exposed to John and Glenn. I would cross the street to avoid a white guy from the south side of Chicago. Using "black" as shorthand for a culture derived from street gangs is inaccurate because that culture tracks better with class than skin color. And that's an inaccurate shorthand that spans both sides of the political aisle.
Finally, third point, I was struggling with how to objectively categorize Scott's comments until I was reading the comments here and saw one that pointed out it's the mirror of Kendi's beliefs. That resonated and helped me firmly categorize them as racist, not just lacking the nuance of point 2.
"there's also a history of that whole issue of “Is it okay to be white?” that he's completely ignoring. It's a set phrase."
A set phrase for whom?
As I walk the highways and byways of ordinary America, I interact with many people. I am routinely surprised at how few everyday working folks are aware of the myriad "set pieces" the chattering classes consider definitive.
It is well to remember that the hoi polloi tend to be literalist, unable to hear what a few strident agitators term "dog whistles."
Being obsessively online, Adams can reasonably be expected to understand that, for certain cohorts, it is indeed a "set piece," but he is also of an age that remembers the rising majority of people who condemned stereotyping people on the basis of skin color.
Academics that arrogate a prerogative to superimpose their own peculiar definition of common words and phrases, are not the arbiters of the common man's thought. A sense of intellectual superiority induces the self-conceptualized "thought leaders" to incite group coercion, and the results are unsurprising. Those with weak arguments reinforce them with threats of violence or penury. Their status as mere proxy does not alter this fact.
Having observed the incrementalism of the last half-century; the steady injection of radicalism into mainstream discourse, the current impasse is hardly unexpected.
Adams can be quite a jerk. That said, his entire statement, including the portion that has not been openly discussed, mirrors what is being said by a growing minority of those with different complexions from his.
I fail to apprehend how this can be a "good" thing, but no American should be forced, by any means, to seek association with, or to live in proximity to any other if they do not wish it.
A provocative comment from Scott Adams from 2020.
"Maybe we should just forgive all dead people and move on without them."
Which sounds like a form of sunk cost analysis. Adams is a economist by training (BA from Berkeley).
A voice from the 1990's echos an ancient warning.
"No peace without justice, no justice without forgiveness: I shall not tire of repeating this warning to those who, for one reason or another, nourish feelings of hatred, a desire for revenge or the will to destroy." Pope John Paul II
So nearly half of black people surveyed in that poll are basically questioning whether an entire group's existence is acceptable, but Adams having noticed that is the problem? Really? If only someone could have predicted that the perpetual racialization of every aspect of life would end badly.
This a sowing of the roots planted when some people lost their minds over the concept that ALL lives matter. The black ones, the white ones, and the ones in other hues. If the idea that they all matter is too frightening for people to grasp, then the great American experiment is over. The belief that a pluralistic, multicultural society could find common ground and function turned into a Frankenstein's monster that is now devouring its host.
I'm trying to understand John's dismissive view of the poll results. Would he be so cavalier if that many whites said it's not okay to be black? That would be headline news for a week and it suck the oxygen out of every other topic, from Ukraine to East Palestine, OH to the J6 footage being released. Maybe his view of nuance is that we should not get worked up in either case, which is a nice-sounding sentiment but is not grounded in reality. An adult society would pause for a moment and consider what Adams said, dissecting the words AND the poll results, and questioning if the endless drumbeat of race, race, and more race is not creating a new problem. An easily foreseeable problem, which would make the problem's creators far more of an issue than one guy speaking out.