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John. Love you. But you’re having really whacky surface level takes on things lately.

Yes, MAGA is simple minded when you boil every position down to the simplest framing. It’s a tautological argument. That is where people are seeing the “elitism” and bubble in your responses. Every side and every position has the simple minded dip shit argument and both sides have huge contingents of their base that only know those simple arguments.

The entire point is, what is the good argument? How do I steel man this?

Examples of your MAGA takes on the left.

Immigration - diversity is our strength. Diversity is inherently good. Or, they’re already here it’s wrong to deny them.

Economy - we just need more funding.

Education- we just need more funding.

Crime - they’re underprivileged what do you expect them to do?

Ukraine - Russia invaded a smaller country (have the power) it is our duty to stand against that.

Racism - you mentioned.

Fairness - disparities inherently indicate mistreatment.

Etc etc etc.

The reason MAGA hates the “mainstream media” is because they caricature everyone as holding these mind numbingly stupid/incomplete views. When they don’t have such a surface level understanding and have reasons.

Meanwhile, they take the idiotic views on the other side and couch them as profound.

The reason people like you and Glenn is because you take those idiotic boiled down versions from the left. And say when they’re truly idiotic. But also when they have a point. For maga you don’t do the same. You stop at the caricature.

Immigration

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