Glenn Loury
The Glenn Show
John McWhorter and Peter Arcidiacono – The Economics of SFFA v. Harvard
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John McWhorter and Peter Arcidiacono – The Economics of SFFA v. Harvard

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Part of what made Students for Fair Admissions’ case before the Supreme Court so compelling was the data. It was very hard to look at the numbers and not conclude that discrimination was involved in Harvard and the University of North Carolina’s admissions practices. This week on The Glenn Show, John and I are joined by the man behind that data, Duke economist Peter Arcidiacono. I feel like we’ve been talking about this case for a long time, but Peter signed onto the project back in 2015. He’s a modest guy, but in my view a considerable amount of the credit for SFFA’s victory belongs to him.

Peter is an economist before all else, and he walks John and I through some of the work that went into the case. As he explains, the statistical analysis he worked up for SFFA is only part of his longstanding social scientific interest in college admissions. Some of his work is even being cited in attempts to get rid of legacy admissions. Ending legacies would suit John just fine, but to me it seems incorrect to conflate clearly discriminatory admissions policies and the institutional discretion involved in admitting legacies and athletes. Peter’s work goes a long way toward revealing what’s really going on behind the scenes in university admissions offices, and to him one thing is clear: Colleges are not being honest about their policies.

Despite his work with SFFA, Peter hasn’t received much blowback within academia. Compare his situation to that of Roland Fryer, whose work on race and policing challenged the company line. As Peter says, academia’s loss may result in greater gains for all if Roland’s innovative new businesses bear fruit. To conclude the conversation, we discuss how, if universities take a more open and honest approach to the data at their disposal, they could change education for the better. I hope they’re listening.

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0:00 Peter’s role in the Supreme Court affirmative action case

8:57 Are legacy admissions affirmative action by another name?

19:17 Why Peter got interested in affirmative action

24:20 Glenn was for affirmative action before he was against it

32:45 Peter: Universities are not honest about admissions

36:32 The brilliance of Roland Fryer

53:29 Campus diversity after affirmative action

Recorded July 22, 2023


Links and Readings

Glenn’s 2020 conversation with Peter

Peter’s paper, “What happens after enrollment? An analysis of the time path of racial differences in GPA and major choice”

Mary Sue Coleman on the steps of the Supreme Court

John’s book, Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black America

Roland Fryer’s paper, “An Empirical Analysis of Racial Differences in Police Use of Force”

Federico Echenique and Roland Fryer’s paper, “A Measure of Segregation Based on Social Interactions”

David Austen-Smith and Roland Fryer’s paper, “The Economics of ‘Acting White’”


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Glenn Loury
The Glenn Show
Race, inequality, and economics in the US and throughout the world from Glenn Loury, Professor of Economics at Brown University and Paulson Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute