1. Derek Chauvin was never charged with a hate crime because Keith Ellison and his team could find no evidence that race factored into Chauvin's actions. Ellison said as much during a 60 Minutes interview. Here's a link to an article from The Hill that included a partial transcript:
Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison made his case for why George Floyd’s death was not charged as a hate crime, arguing that systemic racism, not individual racial motivation, was at work when former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin knelt on Floyd’s neck for more than nine minutes.
In an interview with “60 Minutes” that aired on Sunday, CBS’s Scott Pelley asked Ellison if he thought Floyd’s death was a hate crime. After a brief pause, Ellison responded it wasn’t.
“I wouldn’t call it that because hate crimes are crimes where there’s an explicit motive, and of bias,” Ellison said. “We don’t have any evidence that Derek Chauvin factored in George Floyd’s race as he did what he did.”
“In our society, there is a social norm that killing certain kinds of people is more tolerable than other kinds of people,” says Keith Ellison about the murder of George Floyd. But without evidence of explicit bias, he could not charge it as a hate crime. https://t.co/fZ6gmySBfYpic.twitter.com/46fissA9I4
— 60 Minutes (@60Minutes) April 25, 2021
Pelley noted that Ellison could have charged Chauvin with a hate crime under Minnesota law, and pushed him on why he decided not to.
Ellison said that while they could have gone down that route, the state of Minnesota decided not to because “we only charge those crimes that we had evidence that we could put in front of a jury to prove.”
“If we’d had a witness that told us that Derek Chauvin made a racial reference, we might have charged him with a hate crime. But I would have needed a witness to say that on the stand,” Ellison continued.
“We didn’t have it. So we didn’t do it,” Ellison concluded.
Pelley challenged Ellison’s interpretation of the situation, noting that, “The whole world sees this as a white officer killing a Black man because he is Black.”
“And you’re telling me that there’s no evidence to support that?” he asked.
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2. Tony Timpa died under similar circumstances as George Floyd back in 2016. The officers involved didn't face any criminal charges, but were found liable in a wrongful death lawsuit. .:
Decide for yourself if Timpa's case didn't draw as much attention as Floyd's because of different racial dynamics, because civilian video footage wasn't available, or because of something else,
3. In March the Associated Press released an analysis that showed more than 1,000 people died in police custody over the past 10 years while "nonlethal" force was used to restrain them:
Every day, police in the U.S. rely on common use-of-force tactics that, unlike guns, are meant to stop people without killing them. But when misused, these tactics can still end in death.
Over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other means not intended to be lethal, an investigation led by The Associated Press found. In hundreds of cases, officers weren’t taught or didn’t follow best safety practices for this force, creating a recipe for death.
Medical officials cited law enforcement as causing or contributing to about half of the deaths. In many others, significant police force went unmentioned and drugs or preexisting health problems were blamed instead.
These cases included George Floyd, whose 2020 death under the body weight of an officer sparked a national reckoning over policing. And while Floyd’s encounter happened to be caught on video, capturing his last words of “I can’t breathe,” many others throughout the United States have escaped notice.
I'll leave it to others to decide if the media and America's leaders responded well to the George Floyd case. Suffice it to say that history may not be kind to those who projected their own feelings about race and policing onto the Floyd case rather than allow the investigation to play out before they drew conclusions.
The prosecution's (and therefore Ellison's) whole trial strategy was to downplay race. He wasn't just saying this on 60 Minutes, it was his office's whole approach to the case, in court and in the media.
Here in my hometown we had another potential George Floyd case a few weeks ago. A 50-some year old Black gentleman just released after 20 years in prison for kidnapping ran into a telephone pole in his car and fled the scene. He ended up in a bar just up the road where the managers called police because he was being disruptive. When the police arrived, the gentleman became combative, and he was cuffed and subdued while prone. One of the officers had his knee on the prisoner's back (not neck) for a very few minutes, and the man began stating "I can't breath". The officers went about their business, but unknown to them, the prisoner had stopped breathing. I believe the time frame from when he was put in the prone position until he was found unresponsive was about 8 minutes. As soon as he was found unresponsive, the squad was called, arrived and began cardiac arrest protocols but were unsuccessful.
At this time the autopsy report is still pending and there have been no mass protests or riots. The officers involved have been suspended pending investigation.
So far, sanity has prevailed in this incident, as I am sure there are multiple factors involved up to and including the actions of the officers. While it is very easy to criticize police and I do believe they need to be held accountable when necessary, there are probably thousands of individuals who may have a combination of medical and/or substance use factors that will end up in a tragic outcome from a police encounter.
I assume that you're talking about the Frank Tyson case in Canton, OH. I'm familiar with it. Here's a link to a local news story about the case for the benefit of TGS subscribers:
We had a somewhat similar case in Atlanta several months ago. A black church deacon was involved in a minor traffic accident. The first officer who arrived on the scene, a young black guy, determined that the deacon was at fault, wrote a ticket, and asked the deacon to sign it. The deacon refused. The officer told him that he had to sign the ticket, which didn't require him to admit fault, or that he would be arrested. That was standard procedure at the time. Atlanta police stopped enforcing that rule after this incident. Things escalated and a struggle ensued. The deacon was tased during the encounter, passed out afterwards, and eventually died.
The officer was fired. APD says he didn't follow procedures and should have waited for a supervisor to arrive before he tried to arrest the deacon. He says he followed procedures and will appeal his termination:
As was the case with the officers in Canton, the officer involved in the Atlanta case only had a few years on the job. He was part of a new group of officers who had to be hired after many experienced officers left the force following the summer of 2020.
The good news, to the extent that there is any, in both the Canton and Atlanta incidents is that people have remained calm. That wasn't the case in Atlanta back in 2020 after Rashard Brooks died during an encounter with law enforcement.
A couple of thing seem to be at play:
1. Law enforcement releases body cam footage faster than before and is more aggressive about presenting a counter-narrative to claims of police misconduct.
2. People are more cautious about how they respond to these cases than they were back in 2020.
Agreed, and I am happy about that. I am curious to see what the coroner rules as cause of death. Since Mr Tyson was in a MVA just prior to this incident, I am curious as to what if any impact that may have had on his ultimate demise.
Shallow thinkers do not think beyond the immediate and the observable. They usually take information at face value and only look at immediate consequences. They are not capable of looking at all sides of an issue or think deeply about the issue before making decisions or drawing conclusions . . .
They also believe that their opinion is based on deep thinking because they genuinely believe that their opinion is based on truth and facts. Whereas, deep thinkers look at the whole sequence of events and the consequences. When we dig deeper, we understand better. We can compare different outcomes, examine, tear apart, and make cognizant judgments that are derived from different mental models.
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Left and Right, I’ve yet to find a single person who digs beyond the depth of their immediate domain of interest. In our entirely transactional times, America endlessly rehashes topics of today — never once considering the totality of events that created them (or even having a notion of the need to). With the issues I address — you might as well be saying the Civil War wasn’t germane to the assassination of Lincoln. As I have an idea that could turn the tide — virtually all conversations on here fit under the umbrella of mine. If you’re not interested in such discovery, let’s not waste each other’s time. Thank you! 🙏
It astounds me that even that courtesy is hard to come by anymore. In a world where timeless truths are “outdated” — a lot of things are hard to come by.
It’s a mighty fine day when you wake up to high praise from a man of Glenn Loury’s caliber — twice! He once called my writing “brilliant,” was “honored by it,” and “blown away” by my site and signed up. I’d like to think that’d at least give me a little credibility with his supporters. I’d like to think a lot of things. What does it say to you that across communities where claims of critical thinking are everywhere — I haven’t found it anywhere? Ann Baker’s article beautifully captures what critical thinking is and is not:
“Indeed, nowadays, we tend to take in and repeat whatever the values and beliefs of those around us have rather than forming our own independent thought and stopping to organize and evaluate the information we are receiving.”
I’ve always hated Twitter and every long-form version of it (including the one I’m on right now). When I’m done doing what I gotta do — I’m never goin’ back (not to X or any other). Until then, I’m sending out a certain set of messages looking for intelligent life (fiercely independent thinkers who want to solve problems — not endlessly talk about them).
Think of my signals as a poor man’s SETI: I’ve got an idea — and it’s got teeth. There’s a way we can harness folly from the past for the benefit of the future. A.K.A. learning! Going by the galaxies filled with “rock stars” of reasoning across the social media universe — I should have no shortage of people eager to examine my idea and discuss how we could improve on it and proceed. You tell me where those people are and I’ll gladly send out my signals to them.
If you’re not interested in hearing me out and having meaningful conversation — we have nothing to talk about and I wish you well.
Explaining America’s decline over decades of delight in the Gutter Games of Government — is apples & oranges as it gets when compared to the transactional nature of news and social-media norms. Understanding how seemingly unrelated events impact one another takes time and effort to digest.
You are being conditioned to do the exact opposite — as all of America has been for decades.
And in truth, a lot longer than that. As Alexander Hamilton beautiful put it:
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To see the character of the government and the country so sported with, exposed to so indelible a blot, puts my heart to the torture. . . . Or what is it that thus torments me at a circumstance so calmly viewed by almost everybody else? Am I a fool, a romantic Quixote, or is there a constitutional defect in the American mind?
Were it not for yourself and a few others, I . . . would say . . . there is something in our climate which belittles every animal, human or brute. . . . I disclose to you without reserve the state of my mind. It is discontented and gloomy in the extreme.
I consider the cause of good government as having been put to an issue and the verdict against it.
— Ron Chernow, Hamilton
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We could do something about that, but you’re busy. You’re always busy. Thank you for your time, but please don’t waste mine. And to make that abundantly clear: If you don’t want to click on either of the links below, that’s your prerogative. But here’s the deal: If you don’t earn my time, you don’t get my time. Anything short of specifically addressing my arguments within one or both of the stories below, and you will not hear from me. And to save you some time, I won’t even read your comment if it’s not within the parameters of that opening quote. The first sentence I see that falls outside that domain; will be the last sentence I see.
If you’re turned off by this — that’s the point (to weed you out).
I beat the hell out of both sides, and if you can’t handle some heat — you don’t qualify (so I don’t need ya). Call me whatever you like, I don’t care. For 20 years, I’ve been practically spit on for following principles those same people promote on a daily basis. When it comes to self-satisfied scorn, I’ve heard it all and I’ve seen it all (and made the most of it by making examples out of hermetically sealed minds).
Isn’t it probable that one or more unbiased and unintimidated jurors would have reasonable doubt of Chauvin’s guilt if presented with all the relevant facts and testimony in this case?
In my opinion police reforms would be far more effective if the emphasis was on the specific concerns without the inflammatory rhetoric about race
Sorry, I am breaking my personal rule about commenting only after listening to podcast. I intend to listen carefully to discussion about “correct restraint procedure” vs. “incorrect”. (1): I would hope that police are not held to a higher level standard that is absent in their training manual or employee manual. (2): If my doctor has to give me a shot, but I fight, punch, bite, spit, kick and scratch him in defiance- whose fault is it when the needle goes in crooked?
Oh Keith Ellison .. such moral superiority and oh the down play on topics not favorable to leftist ideology. I turned him off last time he was on and I just watched about 5 minutes of it and I just can’t even. “None of them were black” none arrested were black is what he meant. there’s video of it, we can see. He and Alvin Bragg are cousins.. clearly. Soros cousins. Disgusting 🗑️..
That was an interesting recap. Nice to see your guy's positions change as the observed facts changed. I'd love to hear from you two in maybe 3 - 6 months to see what you're thinking then.
Glad to see you, Glenn! Hope you continue to improve.
I have never been so supportive of John. Thank you John for seeing this fraught subject with the rare fairness that you both did. And 100% “gentleman “ was a slap and a dig! It was felt throughout the whole interview and pissed me off. I feel better now lol.
This is a fraught topic.
A couple of things need to be pointed out:
1. Derek Chauvin was never charged with a hate crime because Keith Ellison and his team could find no evidence that race factored into Chauvin's actions. Ellison said as much during a 60 Minutes interview. Here's a link to an article from The Hill that included a partial transcript:
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/550211-minnesota-ag-explains-why-floyd-death-not-charged-as-hate-crime/
Here's an excerpt:
Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison made his case for why George Floyd’s death was not charged as a hate crime, arguing that systemic racism, not individual racial motivation, was at work when former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin knelt on Floyd’s neck for more than nine minutes.
In an interview with “60 Minutes” that aired on Sunday, CBS’s Scott Pelley asked Ellison if he thought Floyd’s death was a hate crime. After a brief pause, Ellison responded it wasn’t.
“I wouldn’t call it that because hate crimes are crimes where there’s an explicit motive, and of bias,” Ellison said. “We don’t have any evidence that Derek Chauvin factored in George Floyd’s race as he did what he did.”
“In our society, there is a social norm that killing certain kinds of people is more tolerable than other kinds of people,” says Keith Ellison about the murder of George Floyd. But without evidence of explicit bias, he could not charge it as a hate crime. https://t.co/fZ6gmySBfY pic.twitter.com/46fissA9I4
— 60 Minutes (@60Minutes) April 25, 2021
Pelley noted that Ellison could have charged Chauvin with a hate crime under Minnesota law, and pushed him on why he decided not to.
Ellison said that while they could have gone down that route, the state of Minnesota decided not to because “we only charge those crimes that we had evidence that we could put in front of a jury to prove.”
“If we’d had a witness that told us that Derek Chauvin made a racial reference, we might have charged him with a hate crime. But I would have needed a witness to say that on the stand,” Ellison continued.
“We didn’t have it. So we didn’t do it,” Ellison concluded.
Pelley challenged Ellison’s interpretation of the situation, noting that, “The whole world sees this as a white officer killing a Black man because he is Black.”
“And you’re telling me that there’s no evidence to support that?” he asked.
Substack doesn't allow embedded links in comments, so you have to go to the page referenced above if you want to do deep dives.
2. Tony Timpa died under similar circumstances as George Floyd back in 2016. The officers involved didn't face any criminal charges, but were found liable in a wrongful death lawsuit. .:
https://www.keranews.org/criminal-justice/2023-09-27/tony-timpa-verdict-wrongful-death-lawsuit
Decide for yourself if Timpa's case didn't draw as much attention as Floyd's because of different racial dynamics, because civilian video footage wasn't available, or because of something else,
3. In March the Associated Press released an analysis that showed more than 1,000 people died in police custody over the past 10 years while "nonlethal" force was used to restrain them:
https://apnews.com/article/lethal-restraint-police-deaths-ap-investigation-takeaways-630674771e1cf97cfe6e25ba054ebf12
Here's an excerpt:
Every day, police in the U.S. rely on common use-of-force tactics that, unlike guns, are meant to stop people without killing them. But when misused, these tactics can still end in death.
Over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other means not intended to be lethal, an investigation led by The Associated Press found. In hundreds of cases, officers weren’t taught or didn’t follow best safety practices for this force, creating a recipe for death.
Medical officials cited law enforcement as causing or contributing to about half of the deaths. In many others, significant police force went unmentioned and drugs or preexisting health problems were blamed instead.
These cases included George Floyd, whose 2020 death under the body weight of an officer sparked a national reckoning over policing. And while Floyd’s encounter happened to be caught on video, capturing his last words of “I can’t breathe,” many others throughout the United States have escaped notice.
I'll leave it to others to decide if the media and America's leaders responded well to the George Floyd case. Suffice it to say that history may not be kind to those who projected their own feelings about race and policing onto the Floyd case rather than allow the investigation to play out before they drew conclusions.
Thanks for the thoughtful and well-informed comment, Clifton.
My pleasure. I'm glad to see that you're on the mend and wish you a speedy full recovery!
The prosecution's (and therefore Ellison's) whole trial strategy was to downplay race. He wasn't just saying this on 60 Minutes, it was his office's whole approach to the case, in court and in the media.
Here in my hometown we had another potential George Floyd case a few weeks ago. A 50-some year old Black gentleman just released after 20 years in prison for kidnapping ran into a telephone pole in his car and fled the scene. He ended up in a bar just up the road where the managers called police because he was being disruptive. When the police arrived, the gentleman became combative, and he was cuffed and subdued while prone. One of the officers had his knee on the prisoner's back (not neck) for a very few minutes, and the man began stating "I can't breath". The officers went about their business, but unknown to them, the prisoner had stopped breathing. I believe the time frame from when he was put in the prone position until he was found unresponsive was about 8 minutes. As soon as he was found unresponsive, the squad was called, arrived and began cardiac arrest protocols but were unsuccessful.
At this time the autopsy report is still pending and there have been no mass protests or riots. The officers involved have been suspended pending investigation.
So far, sanity has prevailed in this incident, as I am sure there are multiple factors involved up to and including the actions of the officers. While it is very easy to criticize police and I do believe they need to be held accountable when necessary, there are probably thousands of individuals who may have a combination of medical and/or substance use factors that will end up in a tragic outcome from a police encounter.
I assume that you're talking about the Frank Tyson case in Canton, OH. I'm familiar with it. Here's a link to a local news story about the case for the benefit of TGS subscribers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ktt7zO--M8
I was surprised this weekend to find out that Benjamin Crump is involved and likens the case to George Floyd's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fweaJkEI3h4
We had a somewhat similar case in Atlanta several months ago. A black church deacon was involved in a minor traffic accident. The first officer who arrived on the scene, a young black guy, determined that the deacon was at fault, wrote a ticket, and asked the deacon to sign it. The deacon refused. The officer told him that he had to sign the ticket, which didn't require him to admit fault, or that he would be arrested. That was standard procedure at the time. Atlanta police stopped enforcing that rule after this incident. Things escalated and a struggle ensued. The deacon was tased during the encounter, passed out afterwards, and eventually died.
Here's a news report about the encounter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIFCACKGZhQ
The officer was fired. APD says he didn't follow procedures and should have waited for a supervisor to arrive before he tried to arrest the deacon. He says he followed procedures and will appeal his termination:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB0jJ0QaRm4
As was the case with the officers in Canton, the officer involved in the Atlanta case only had a few years on the job. He was part of a new group of officers who had to be hired after many experienced officers left the force following the summer of 2020.
The good news, to the extent that there is any, in both the Canton and Atlanta incidents is that people have remained calm. That wasn't the case in Atlanta back in 2020 after Rashard Brooks died during an encounter with law enforcement.
A couple of thing seem to be at play:
1. Law enforcement releases body cam footage faster than before and is more aggressive about presenting a counter-narrative to claims of police misconduct.
2. People are more cautious about how they respond to these cases than they were back in 2020.
Agreed, and I am happy about that. I am curious to see what the coroner rules as cause of death. Since Mr Tyson was in a MVA just prior to this incident, I am curious as to what if any impact that may have had on his ultimate demise.
Love that you did this show, it's exactly what I wanted instead of having to search back through all the episodes for the discussions
Excellent retrospect and example of how to be open and change as new information is presented. Thank you!
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Shallow thinkers do not think beyond the immediate and the observable. They usually take information at face value and only look at immediate consequences. They are not capable of looking at all sides of an issue or think deeply about the issue before making decisions or drawing conclusions . . .
They also believe that their opinion is based on deep thinking because they genuinely believe that their opinion is based on truth and facts. Whereas, deep thinkers look at the whole sequence of events and the consequences. When we dig deeper, we understand better. We can compare different outcomes, examine, tear apart, and make cognizant judgments that are derived from different mental models.
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Left and Right, I’ve yet to find a single person who digs beyond the depth of their immediate domain of interest. In our entirely transactional times, America endlessly rehashes topics of today — never once considering the totality of events that created them (or even having a notion of the need to). With the issues I address — you might as well be saying the Civil War wasn’t germane to the assassination of Lincoln. As I have an idea that could turn the tide — virtually all conversations on here fit under the umbrella of mine. If you’re not interested in such discovery, let’s not waste each other’s time. Thank you! 🙏
It astounds me that even that courtesy is hard to come by anymore. In a world where timeless truths are “outdated” — a lot of things are hard to come by.
It’s a mighty fine day when you wake up to high praise from a man of Glenn Loury’s caliber — twice! He once called my writing “brilliant,” was “honored by it,” and “blown away” by my site and signed up. I’d like to think that’d at least give me a little credibility with his supporters. I’d like to think a lot of things. What does it say to you that across communities where claims of critical thinking are everywhere — I haven’t found it anywhere? Ann Baker’s article beautifully captures what critical thinking is and is not:
“Indeed, nowadays, we tend to take in and repeat whatever the values and beliefs of those around us have rather than forming our own independent thought and stopping to organize and evaluate the information we are receiving.”
I’ve always hated Twitter and every long-form version of it (including the one I’m on right now). When I’m done doing what I gotta do — I’m never goin’ back (not to X or any other). Until then, I’m sending out a certain set of messages looking for intelligent life (fiercely independent thinkers who want to solve problems — not endlessly talk about them).
Think of my signals as a poor man’s SETI: I’ve got an idea — and it’s got teeth. There’s a way we can harness folly from the past for the benefit of the future. A.K.A. learning! Going by the galaxies filled with “rock stars” of reasoning across the social media universe — I should have no shortage of people eager to examine my idea and discuss how we could improve on it and proceed. You tell me where those people are and I’ll gladly send out my signals to them.
If you’re not interested in hearing me out and having meaningful conversation — we have nothing to talk about and I wish you well.
Explaining America’s decline over decades of delight in the Gutter Games of Government — is apples & oranges as it gets when compared to the transactional nature of news and social-media norms. Understanding how seemingly unrelated events impact one another takes time and effort to digest.
You are being conditioned to do the exact opposite — as all of America has been for decades.
And in truth, a lot longer than that. As Alexander Hamilton beautiful put it:
*********************
To see the character of the government and the country so sported with, exposed to so indelible a blot, puts my heart to the torture. . . . Or what is it that thus torments me at a circumstance so calmly viewed by almost everybody else? Am I a fool, a romantic Quixote, or is there a constitutional defect in the American mind?
Were it not for yourself and a few others, I . . . would say . . . there is something in our climate which belittles every animal, human or brute. . . . I disclose to you without reserve the state of my mind. It is discontented and gloomy in the extreme.
I consider the cause of good government as having been put to an issue and the verdict against it.
— Ron Chernow, Hamilton
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We could do something about that, but you’re busy. You’re always busy. Thank you for your time, but please don’t waste mine. And to make that abundantly clear: If you don’t want to click on either of the links below, that’s your prerogative. But here’s the deal: If you don’t earn my time, you don’t get my time. Anything short of specifically addressing my arguments within one or both of the stories below, and you will not hear from me. And to save you some time, I won’t even read your comment if it’s not within the parameters of that opening quote. The first sentence I see that falls outside that domain; will be the last sentence I see.
If you’re turned off by this — that’s the point (to weed you out).
I beat the hell out of both sides, and if you can’t handle some heat — you don’t qualify (so I don’t need ya). Call me whatever you like, I don’t care. For 20 years, I’ve been practically spit on for following principles those same people promote on a daily basis. When it comes to self-satisfied scorn, I’ve heard it all and I’ve seen it all (and made the most of it by making examples out of hermetically sealed minds).
This is the larger story I’m out to tell:
From the Earth to the Moon to “WUT”
https://onevoicebecametwo.life/2024/04/24/from-the-earth-to-the-moon-to-wut/
And this is conduit through which I’m out to tell it:
The Critical Thinking of Sowell’s Crowd: Where Even Math is a Matter of Opinion https://onevoicebecametwo.life/2024/05/12/the-critical-thinking-of-sowells-crowd-where-even-math-is-a-matter-of-opinion/
“Gentleman”
Isn’t it probable that one or more unbiased and unintimidated jurors would have reasonable doubt of Chauvin’s guilt if presented with all the relevant facts and testimony in this case?
In my opinion police reforms would be far more effective if the emphasis was on the specific concerns without the inflammatory rhetoric about race
Sorry, I am breaking my personal rule about commenting only after listening to podcast. I intend to listen carefully to discussion about “correct restraint procedure” vs. “incorrect”. (1): I would hope that police are not held to a higher level standard that is absent in their training manual or employee manual. (2): If my doctor has to give me a shot, but I fight, punch, bite, spit, kick and scratch him in defiance- whose fault is it when the needle goes in crooked?
Oh Keith Ellison .. such moral superiority and oh the down play on topics not favorable to leftist ideology. I turned him off last time he was on and I just watched about 5 minutes of it and I just can’t even. “None of them were black” none arrested were black is what he meant. there’s video of it, we can see. He and Alvin Bragg are cousins.. clearly. Soros cousins. Disgusting 🗑️..
That was an interesting recap. Nice to see your guy's positions change as the observed facts changed. I'd love to hear from you two in maybe 3 - 6 months to see what you're thinking then.
Glad to see you, Glenn! Hope you continue to improve.
Also I feel for you Glenn. I can hear your suffering. I pray for a fast recovery and relief of your pain.
I have never been so supportive of John. Thank you John for seeing this fraught subject with the rare fairness that you both did. And 100% “gentleman “ was a slap and a dig! It was felt throughout the whole interview and pissed me off. I feel better now lol.
I wish you a speedy recovery, Glenn!