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A Stranger in a Strange Land's avatar

I like millions of other working class people, got a hard worked place in line but were asked to hold the door open for someone under qualified and smile while giving up your “earned” place. Race and gender grifters are now seen as “cheaters” and “all” unfortunately are deemed second rate. To hear the complaining and crying by women and POC makes all off us who willingly stepped aside for equality feel like chumps! This is a grift which ruined meritocracy , gimme gimme gimme.....but sadly those who got “special treatment” are not able to be thankful for all citizens (white working class) who gave up opportunities for this injustice. End cheating.... End This Grift !

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James Killough's avatar

The racial-preference debate has been a tough one for me for so long that it sends me in cognitive circles. In general, my Anglo-American Yankee default is merit trumps everything; it's the standard by which we ourselves live in modern times.

I would caution about using South Asians as a comparison. Both my sister and I are Northeastern establishment Whites married to 'desi,' meaning natives, not diaspora-immigrant North Indian Brahmins. I speak intermediate Hindi that most Americans would consider fluent, and have a long history with the country — I MCed the first televised Miss India Pageant, largely because I was White and could pronounce the contestants names correctly.

The caste system is a tough one for Americans to grasp: In essence, it's a highly successful, centuries-old eugenics program originally based on colorism — social ranking by skin tone, still critical in arranged marriages — and professional inclination, or type of intelligence and natural aptitude. For the most part, I can tell someone's caste just by looking and speaking to him/her.

I don't see Kamala Harris as Black; she's a typical whip-smart, dialectic-loving Brahmin with the same poise, confidence and grace as another Tamil Brahmin public person trusted for her expertise, Padma Lakshmi — Brahmins are big on cooking and the arts, too.

India has a similar affirmative action program to America's, based on caste. "Backward castes" — or tribals, Untouchables, lower-caste people — are given preference in schools and government jobs. The higher up the caste system you go, the fewer slots available. America's race-based inequalities pale in comparison to India's social system, pun fully intended. I doubt India will do away with caste-based quotas any time soon.

Almost all diaspora Indians in America are middle class and above. It costs a lot of money to emigrate to America and set up a business, buying a franchise, stocking a store. Attending an elite professional university, grad school and residency is even more expensive, and as foreigners they aren't eligible for financial aid, forget loans. On top of that, using my best guesstimate, I would say that with India's purchasing power parity, an American education costs Indians 3X more than Americans; that was certainly the case during the first diaspora wave in the 80s and 90s. There were so few South Asians in America before then that they were counted as White on the census prior to 1972 — I believe that's the year, might be later. I've never met a non-high-caste South Asian doctor or lawyer in America. Muslims/Pakistanis also have a form of casteism based on tribal affiliations.

Given the above and more, I personally reject sociopolitical and racial affiliations between American Blacks and other brown races. They are specious, at best: Middle Easterners and South Asians are far more racist than the vast majority of American Whites. I won't go into the Chinese, I'll just point to that massive wall that could easily span America at its widest point, built to keep non-Hans out.

South Asian biases are almost entirely due to colorism, an important factor in the race debate in America that is never discussed, but it's well past time that we do: 99.99% of Whites have no idea what it is; we are the only race that I know of that doesn't have it. Quite the opposite: We think of pallor as being a sign of illness. Tanning beds?

Skin tone among most Nonwhite groups is so important that it's a form of currency, one that Whites simply don't trade in. And that is a critical factor that informs too many Nonwhite presumptions of what the "White gaze" is, why so many beliefs about the way we perceive race are way off the mark, but only conservative Whites will push back on that, except they're all "White supremacists," apparently... and down the road the inconvenient colorism can gets kicked.

We're not allowed to speak for the Nonwhite experience, but far too many Nonwhites are certain they can speak for ours based on their own perspectives. To use one of Charles Blow's favorite statements, "They're wrong."

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