I think this conversation was good in that it modeled one of those hard conversations that many of us say are necessary, but few of us are willing to engage in.
Yes, Stephanie did not come across well in this conversation. I’ll wager that she’s a better speaker than what we saw here, but she couldn’t find a nice way to plainly say “Glenn …
I think this conversation was good in that it modeled one of those hard conversations that many of us say are necessary, but few of us are willing to engage in.
Yes, Stephanie did not come across well in this conversation. I’ll wager that she’s a better speaker than what we saw here, but she couldn’t find a nice way to plainly say “Glenn I love you but you’re wrong about all this stuff.” If she were speaking to someone she didn’t have a positive relationship with it probably would have been more succinct and less polite. But she likes Glenn, so we had to listen to her “...like...kinda...um...y’know...” around what she really wanted to say, which seems to have been the same tired, short sighted opinions we’ve heard Glenn (and John) poke holes in dozens of times.
But isn’t that how it goes when people leave their echo chamber? Isn’t that how it has to go for people to change their minds? We have to leave our comfort zones sometimes in order to have conversations that have any hope of changing minds, and sometimes those conversations are awkward as this one was. Which was one of the solid points that Stephanie had, that ranting and dunking is unlikely to persuade people who think differently from you; that if persuasion is your goal then you might need to rethink your strategy, or you might need to rethink your goal. If we expect that every The Glenn Show conversation has to leave us feeling entertained, it might mean we’re full of shit.
Anyway, thanks Glenn for this glimpse into the teacherly side of you that your students must get to enjoy regularly.
"But isn’t that how it goes when people leave their echo chamber? Isn’t that how it has to go for people to change their minds?" This is so important.
But while I believe Stephanie WAS trying, and failing, to change Glenn's mind, Glenn was looking more for truth. Implicitly wanting people to change their own minds as they see the truth from a different perspective.
I think this conversation was good in that it modeled one of those hard conversations that many of us say are necessary, but few of us are willing to engage in.
Yes, Stephanie did not come across well in this conversation. I’ll wager that she’s a better speaker than what we saw here, but she couldn’t find a nice way to plainly say “Glenn I love you but you’re wrong about all this stuff.” If she were speaking to someone she didn’t have a positive relationship with it probably would have been more succinct and less polite. But she likes Glenn, so we had to listen to her “...like...kinda...um...y’know...” around what she really wanted to say, which seems to have been the same tired, short sighted opinions we’ve heard Glenn (and John) poke holes in dozens of times.
But isn’t that how it goes when people leave their echo chamber? Isn’t that how it has to go for people to change their minds? We have to leave our comfort zones sometimes in order to have conversations that have any hope of changing minds, and sometimes those conversations are awkward as this one was. Which was one of the solid points that Stephanie had, that ranting and dunking is unlikely to persuade people who think differently from you; that if persuasion is your goal then you might need to rethink your strategy, or you might need to rethink your goal. If we expect that every The Glenn Show conversation has to leave us feeling entertained, it might mean we’re full of shit.
Anyway, thanks Glenn for this glimpse into the teacherly side of you that your students must get to enjoy regularly.
"But isn’t that how it goes when people leave their echo chamber? Isn’t that how it has to go for people to change their minds?" This is so important.
But while I believe Stephanie WAS trying, and failing, to change Glenn's mind, Glenn was looking more for truth. Implicitly wanting people to change their own minds as they see the truth from a different perspective.