Prof Wax's gofundme links to a 0714 Daily Pennsylvanian article which mentions broad generalizations she made on Tucker Carlson's show like "Blacks feel resentment at the accomplishments of Western Civilization". I appreciate that Glenn made a point of saying that he doesn't agree with Prof. Wax about everything, but I am wondering why some offensive public statements she has made, which are not backed by scholarship, were not discussed on the podcast.
Thank you for the excellent interview. Also thank you for lowering the subscription cost during this period of inflation- allowed me to continue subscribing.
To date, the first 2:05 of this vid is the most convincing phrasing of why heterodoxy on our campuses is so important. A sense of humor is indicated to let some air out of the ball in our current climate. Note this is from seven years ago and censorship has only become more entrenched.
Obviously from the message here, I disagree w many of Amy's ideas on race.
My husband has tenure and though I've raised a lot of money for Heterodox Academy, I constantly remind him to mind his p's and q's lest we lose our house.
Thank-you again for your tremendous courage and integrity. My solution is to have every non-POC identify and register as a POC and every man to self identify as a woman. That way we will all be POC females. Since there is no unambiguous definitions out there, no one can reject it. If you can’t beat them; join them and get that full ride, job offer and promotion. Much love guys. <3
Thank you for speaking out. It sounds like you've paid a tough price. Putting that aside for a moment. I suspect that if you were a white male they would have kicked you out by now. Keep fighting, you have a lot of people who believe in you and your cause.
Loury really went out on a limb for this one, backing Wax unequivocally and calling her a “friend,” despite his repulsion for some of her propositions. He will get tons of flak from the usual suspects and maybe some fresh ones besides. So it was stunning to hear Wax tossed off a mild “thanks” in Loury’s direction at the end of it all. She needn’t scratch Loury’s initials into her bicep to prove her gratitude, but a bit more appreciation certainly is in order. What a sour note on which to end. Can she really be that tone deaf? Never mind.
I have said my piece about Amy Wax being on this show ever again but I am just gritting my teeth here. I am sorry that her family was harassed.
I am receptive to "class-based affirmative action" arguments that many elite universities with a poor record of social mobility are claiming that AA is an instrument of social mobility when for them it is not. But the "contradiction" here is that the universities are claiming they would not have ENOUGH Black students if not for AA and individual students are claiming that any individual Black student got there because of AA when they are not privy to the decisions of the admissions office and that student might have got there absent AA. (G-d forbid that student might be a legacy or a recruited athlete or a poor immigrant story.) The way that I understand the admissions process at super-elite schools (and they have some investment in keeping it mysterious), they could fill their whole class with students with perfect grades and test scores. Every single person who gets in has to have a gimmick. They have to have done something extraordinary. For the people who got in because of AA, being of an underrepresented race is an enhancer to the extraordinary thing that they have already done or helps the admissions office understand why it was extraordinary.
That said, after a whole generation of no AA at the University of California the voters continued it because younger people didn't understand why AA was supposedly necessary. I agree with Wally in the sense that the Black community has learned to take the guarantee of a few people getting out over the enormous task of everyone getting out.
It’s not that alumni ,fire or even government run by the gop will change the ideology of universities. But it provides dissenters in the colleges allies to prevent suppression of their ideas and writings.
Amy is correct in saying the freedoms of the academic world wouldn't be curtailed if a republican administration were in power. Since this is a topic very dear to Glenn's heart (and John's), it never fails to amaze me why they would repudiate Trump so vehemently then. Very strange.. Trump was totally against the woke mob, cancellation, for school choice, and for section 230, etc which would have weakened the power of both Unions and university admin significantly.
"I have a dream..." said a man who is becoming less relevant by the day. Racializing society was poison the first time. What sane person thinks the result will be better if different people do the same thing?
Penn Law's case against Professor Wax is laughable when you look carefully at the charges and at what she's actually said and written. I've done a close consideration of some of the "offenses" her Dean believes merit serious sanctions against her: https://alexanderriley.substack.com/p/latest-on-upenn-laws-effort-to-purge
But, as Professor Wax suggests here, they know it doesn't really matter how pathetically weak their case is.
They are cynically relying on the fact that few people will look carefully at the charges, even those who are disposed to dislike this kind of woke DEI overreach. There is a huge contingent of the American public that will just hear the vapid mantra "racism!" and immediately agree with what Penn Law wants to do, and another large contingent of those who are vaguely concerned about the woke revolution but too intellectually lazy and afraid to stand up to it, especially if it's not (at the moment) attacking them personally.
You might want to read this critical assessment of Dean Ruger's bill of indictment against Amy Wax:
https://alexanderriley.substack.com/p/latest-on-upenn-laws-effort-to-purge
Prof Wax's gofundme links to a 0714 Daily Pennsylvanian article which mentions broad generalizations she made on Tucker Carlson's show like "Blacks feel resentment at the accomplishments of Western Civilization". I appreciate that Glenn made a point of saying that he doesn't agree with Prof. Wax about everything, but I am wondering why some offensive public statements she has made, which are not backed by scholarship, were not discussed on the podcast.
Affirmative action is institutionalized racism. Pure and simple.
Thank you for the excellent interview. Also thank you for lowering the subscription cost during this period of inflation- allowed me to continue subscribing.
https://youtu.be/ipwMa5uT5es
To date, the first 2:05 of this vid is the most convincing phrasing of why heterodoxy on our campuses is so important. A sense of humor is indicated to let some air out of the ball in our current climate. Note this is from seven years ago and censorship has only become more entrenched.
Obviously from the message here, I disagree w many of Amy's ideas on race.
My husband has tenure and though I've raised a lot of money for Heterodox Academy, I constantly remind him to mind his p's and q's lest we lose our house.
Thank-you again for your tremendous courage and integrity. My solution is to have every non-POC identify and register as a POC and every man to self identify as a woman. That way we will all be POC females. Since there is no unambiguous definitions out there, no one can reject it. If you can’t beat them; join them and get that full ride, job offer and promotion. Much love guys. <3
If you haven't, read up on the "Red Tails", or - 332d Fighter Group - the Tuskegee Airmen.
They held the unequaled record of Never having lost a bomber they were escorting over Germany during WW2.
As far as I know the Luftwaffe had no Affirmative Action policy.
If you haven't, read up on the "Red Tails", or - 332d Fighter Group - the Tuskegee Airmen.
They held the unequaled record of Never having lost a bomber they were escorting over Germany during WW2.
As far as I know the Luftwaffe had no Affirmative Action policy.
Thank you for speaking out. It sounds like you've paid a tough price. Putting that aside for a moment. I suspect that if you were a white male they would have kicked you out by now. Keep fighting, you have a lot of people who believe in you and your cause.
Loury really went out on a limb for this one, backing Wax unequivocally and calling her a “friend,” despite his repulsion for some of her propositions. He will get tons of flak from the usual suspects and maybe some fresh ones besides. So it was stunning to hear Wax tossed off a mild “thanks” in Loury’s direction at the end of it all. She needn’t scratch Loury’s initials into her bicep to prove her gratitude, but a bit more appreciation certainly is in order. What a sour note on which to end. Can she really be that tone deaf? Never mind.
Amy Wax said that the student was only there because of AA?? That's different.
I have said my piece about Amy Wax being on this show ever again but I am just gritting my teeth here. I am sorry that her family was harassed.
I am receptive to "class-based affirmative action" arguments that many elite universities with a poor record of social mobility are claiming that AA is an instrument of social mobility when for them it is not. But the "contradiction" here is that the universities are claiming they would not have ENOUGH Black students if not for AA and individual students are claiming that any individual Black student got there because of AA when they are not privy to the decisions of the admissions office and that student might have got there absent AA. (G-d forbid that student might be a legacy or a recruited athlete or a poor immigrant story.) The way that I understand the admissions process at super-elite schools (and they have some investment in keeping it mysterious), they could fill their whole class with students with perfect grades and test scores. Every single person who gets in has to have a gimmick. They have to have done something extraordinary. For the people who got in because of AA, being of an underrepresented race is an enhancer to the extraordinary thing that they have already done or helps the admissions office understand why it was extraordinary.
That said, after a whole generation of no AA at the University of California the voters continued it because younger people didn't understand why AA was supposedly necessary. I agree with Wally in the sense that the Black community has learned to take the guarantee of a few people getting out over the enormous task of everyone getting out.
It’s not that alumni ,fire or even government run by the gop will change the ideology of universities. But it provides dissenters in the colleges allies to prevent suppression of their ideas and writings.
Amy is correct in saying the freedoms of the academic world wouldn't be curtailed if a republican administration were in power. Since this is a topic very dear to Glenn's heart (and John's), it never fails to amaze me why they would repudiate Trump so vehemently then. Very strange.. Trump was totally against the woke mob, cancellation, for school choice, and for section 230, etc which would have weakened the power of both Unions and university admin significantly.
"I have a dream..." said a man who is becoming less relevant by the day. Racializing society was poison the first time. What sane person thinks the result will be better if different people do the same thing?
Penn Law's case against Professor Wax is laughable when you look carefully at the charges and at what she's actually said and written. I've done a close consideration of some of the "offenses" her Dean believes merit serious sanctions against her: https://alexanderriley.substack.com/p/latest-on-upenn-laws-effort-to-purge
But, as Professor Wax suggests here, they know it doesn't really matter how pathetically weak their case is.
They are cynically relying on the fact that few people will look carefully at the charges, even those who are disposed to dislike this kind of woke DEI overreach. There is a huge contingent of the American public that will just hear the vapid mantra "racism!" and immediately agree with what Penn Law wants to do, and another large contingent of those who are vaguely concerned about the woke revolution but too intellectually lazy and afraid to stand up to it, especially if it's not (at the moment) attacking them personally.