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Michoel's avatar

I was hoping Dr. Loury was going to finally cover a phenomenon that I had been bringing to his attention for months asking him to cover.

Alas, it was a misleading title and and nothing to do with what James Lindsey has called the "woke right" but instead a short kevetch about the Trump administration college policy.

Such a shame that Dr. Loury has neglected to cover a subject that is extremely hot in the non-isolationist conservative world. If anyone is interested in a serious discussion of the woke right here is a great podcast:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=sGWynieskcs&si=NF7NcdpMSSbZ9kJj

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Substack Reader's avatar

This is the part of the episode I found confusing. I take it Glenn is basing his contention that "the right is woke now" on two issues: (1) The Israel-Palestine conflict; (2) Trans.

Taking the second first, men-to-women trans athletes is a concrete problem, and one which seems to have finally been corrected, in the US and elsewhere. It was ruining the joy of girls sports and a lot of mothers and fathers were shocked that it was allowed to go on as long as it did. Other than sadism or misogyny, what reason would anyone have to go along with that that Pretend Land nonsense? As far as the schoolbooks, that's a matter of inappropriate adult material being foisted upon young children. Keeping graphic sexual depictions out of grade school libraries seems a pretty easy call. Pushing for such books strikes me as Westboro Baptist Church-level messed up. If people cheer "trans rights" activists choosing grade school library books, would they also cheer Westboro Baptist doing the same?

As for the Israel-Palestine conflict, I suppose Glenn means some of the sketchy deportation attempts and the campus unrest in general. Granted, that issue is not on the first page of my list of Things I Follow, but is that something the right in general is up-in-arms about? Maybe the DC legacy politicians with great interest in PAC money, but my take is that most on the right want to stop US money going to the conflicts in both Ukraine and Israel. I would agree with Dr. Loury that the pro-Palestinian protesters should be allowed to speak their minds. That said, giving scheduled speeches in university auditoriums is one thing. Threats and violence against students is another. And some of the "protesting" does go too far. Recently pro-Palestinian protestors took over Grand Central and locked the doors, halting subway access at that facility. That should not be tolerated. Does saying that make me "woke"?

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Christine C's avatar

Glenn, are you talking about wokeness as a philosophy or a political tactic?

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Keith S Schuerholz's avatar

It's appalling to find white people imitating the aggressive tribalism that every other aggrieved minority group around them has practiced successfully .. and some for centuries...

Anti-tribalism begins at home.

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Robert Redd's avatar

Why were people practicing aggressive tribalism for centuries?

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Keith S Schuerholz's avatar

It wasn't because it was successful?

"Ethno narcissism is the opiate of the masses."

- CAP

One ploy might be to proudly retain YOUR OWN ethnic narcissism and tribalism... while convincing everyone else to give up THEIRS...

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Robert Redd's avatar

Trying to get clarification. Whites are not an ethnic minority.

Ethnic minorities were the ones experiencing a lack of empathy.

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Substack Reader's avatar

🌍 Estimated Global Population by Race and Ethnicity

Group Approximate Global Percentage

East Asian 21%

South Asian 26%

Black (African) 17%

Arab 7%

White (European) 10%

Latino/Hispanic 9%

Indigenous & Other 10%

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Robert Redd's avatar

Percentages in the United States?

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Keith S Schuerholz's avatar

Because no "majority" ever evoked a sense of aggrieved tribalism when it felt threatened?

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Robert Redd's avatar

I thought you wee suggesting aggressive/aggrieved tribalism was a malady of minority groups.

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Keith S Schuerholz's avatar

If you demonstrate a successful tactic, can anyone imitate it?

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