OK, you exchanged one addiction for another. It's like heroin addicts treated with methadone.
Not mocking, here. I've never been addicted to substances but I've had that transformative religious revelation thingy. I know how real it seems and if it helps anyone get through life by leaving more obviously deleterious habits behind, it may be a net good. But it's still a dependency.
Of course it's a dependency—but the Christian contention is that ONLY dependence on the transcendent, infinite good that is God will suffice our otherwise unfulfilled longing. We were made to depend on God; it is right to turn to him in friendship and sacrifice all that he has given us back to him.
Glenn, it was nearly two hours and it went by like lightning. Amazing.
I didn't know anything about your drug struggles, didn't know that you were involved in incarceration issues, or any of it. I just knew you were a good man with a reasonable mind and a powerful voice.
AA has taken a lot of criticism in recent years for not working very well, and maybe it doesn't work for everybody, but my ex-partner swore by it, and it did work for him. There does seem to be a need for a belief in a higher power even if it's not the traditional Judaeo-Christian God. The research underway with psychedelic therapeutics is fascinating and it's amazing what's accomplished for some patients with whatever ails them - addiction, depression, anxiety, etc.
After making many referrals of my patients to AA, I decided I needed to read the Big Book. What I learned was that it is a great primer for living for anyone. Finding your toxic thought patterns and working on them would benefit anyone. For example, deal honestly with your past failures then move on. This takes a lot of work. No surprise that it's too much work for many. AA may be perceived as not "working very well" because the fix isn't easy.
I didn't read the whole thing when my ex was going through AA but I always like the Twelve Steps. It's pretty much a blueprint for fixing a lot of one's problems, not just substance-based ones. You make a good point about how it may be too much hard work for some. With the decline of religion and faith in government, science, media, etc., it's possible that AA doesn't work as well now because people are less committed, or simply unwilling to look within and define their own faults.
About bloody time. Now we just need each of you to sit down separately with VDV. By the way, I noticed Petersons chat with John McWhorter has disappeared from Spotify.???
Thank you for your candor, Dr. Loury. I think this discussion exemplifies (for me) the role of public intellectuals. To share their thoughts, positions, how they were led to some conclusions, how they might shift as they move through life. Leading by example seems a far more effective approach than top-down activism.
Glenn Loury and Jordan Peterson talking. Great conversation. It's a privilege to eavesdrop!
Glenn, you are a national treasure. You've been through things that most of us would be hesitant to share, yet you lay it out there and let us take it in. Perhaps that's why so many people love you. Keep up the good work. You're a good man.
Two of my favorite minds. I am so grateful for both of you bringing sanity to our crazy world. Praying you and Jordan have many more years of sharing your wisdom and passion with us.
Amazing. Certainly, Professor Laury, Christ sent you to us.
OK, you exchanged one addiction for another. It's like heroin addicts treated with methadone.
Not mocking, here. I've never been addicted to substances but I've had that transformative religious revelation thingy. I know how real it seems and if it helps anyone get through life by leaving more obviously deleterious habits behind, it may be a net good. But it's still a dependency.
Of course it's a dependency—but the Christian contention is that ONLY dependence on the transcendent, infinite good that is God will suffice our otherwise unfulfilled longing. We were made to depend on God; it is right to turn to him in friendship and sacrifice all that he has given us back to him.
This was a fascinating story of redemption and pushing through trying circumstances to succeed. I was inspired.
Glenn, it was nearly two hours and it went by like lightning. Amazing.
I didn't know anything about your drug struggles, didn't know that you were involved in incarceration issues, or any of it. I just knew you were a good man with a reasonable mind and a powerful voice.
So glad you're doing this work.
Thanks for sharing, Glenn. Day at a time.
PTL, what a testimony for this Easter spring! Let us pray for Jordan's coming baptism!
AA has taken a lot of criticism in recent years for not working very well, and maybe it doesn't work for everybody, but my ex-partner swore by it, and it did work for him. There does seem to be a need for a belief in a higher power even if it's not the traditional Judaeo-Christian God. The research underway with psychedelic therapeutics is fascinating and it's amazing what's accomplished for some patients with whatever ails them - addiction, depression, anxiety, etc.
After making many referrals of my patients to AA, I decided I needed to read the Big Book. What I learned was that it is a great primer for living for anyone. Finding your toxic thought patterns and working on them would benefit anyone. For example, deal honestly with your past failures then move on. This takes a lot of work. No surprise that it's too much work for many. AA may be perceived as not "working very well" because the fix isn't easy.
I didn't read the whole thing when my ex was going through AA but I always like the Twelve Steps. It's pretty much a blueprint for fixing a lot of one's problems, not just substance-based ones. You make a good point about how it may be too much hard work for some. With the decline of religion and faith in government, science, media, etc., it's possible that AA doesn't work as well now because people are less committed, or simply unwilling to look within and define their own faults.
Loury and Peterson (alphabetical) - 2 of my favorites. Up to my eyeballs on a project that I mega- love. Will return to engagement in early May 2022.
About bloody time. Now we just need each of you to sit down separately with VDV. By the way, I noticed Petersons chat with John McWhorter has disappeared from Spotify.???
I see it in my search on Spotify
Thank you for your candor, Dr. Loury. I think this discussion exemplifies (for me) the role of public intellectuals. To share their thoughts, positions, how they were led to some conclusions, how they might shift as they move through life. Leading by example seems a far more effective approach than top-down activism.
Thank You for your honesty. I enjoy your writing and thinking
Glenn Loury and Jordan Peterson talking. Great conversation. It's a privilege to eavesdrop!
Glenn, you are a national treasure. You've been through things that most of us would be hesitant to share, yet you lay it out there and let us take it in. Perhaps that's why so many people love you. Keep up the good work. You're a good man.
Two of my favorite minds. I am so grateful for both of you bringing sanity to our crazy world. Praying you and Jordan have many more years of sharing your wisdom and passion with us.