Europeans have an extensive history of damaging the minds of black folks (post-traumatic slave syndrome) under the 350 years of brutal white oppressive authoritarianism until the start of the 1960s Civil Rights laws. The American institution of slavery (peculiar institution) separated members of Black families from 1619 through the end of the American Civil War in 1865. Many freed Black slaves desperately searched for their loved ones after the end of slavery. Many left the plantations without land, animals, money, weapons, and government support. You leave out the great white affirmative action programs for poor whites that excluded Blacks: billions of acres of free Indian land issued by the federal government, Indian Removal Act, early welfare programs that discriminated against Blacks (especially Southern state control of allocations under Jim Crow), immigration laws favoring whites, early social security benefits systemically excluding most Blacks who were farm workers and domestic workers (southern whites wanting to preserve their cheap black labor practices), early unions that excluded Blacks workers, early FHA insured mortgages that excluded most Blacks (redlining), etc. Blacks are 200 years behind in wealth accumulation in this country because of slavery and Jim Criw practices. And you want to sit in your white ivory tower based on genocide of indigenous people, black chattel slavery, and structural racism. Compensatory whiteness is sufficient to honestly to address the facts here and arrive at a proactive solution.
According to a CDC National Health Statistics Report, compared to White and Hispanic fathers, Black fathers remain more involved across a range of nurturing and involvement activities like sharing meals, bathing, diapering, dressing, and reading to their children.
(Pew research) Fathers with higher family incomes are much less likely to be living apart from any of their children than are those with lower incomes. Some 15% of fathers with annual family incomes of $50,000 or more live apart from a child, compared with 39% of those with incomes below $30,000 and 38% of those with incomes of $30,000 to $49,999. The pattern holds true when looking only at fathers of young children. Just 5% of fathers with family incomes of $50,000 or more are living away from a child less than 5 years of age. In comparison, some 29% of dads with family incomes of less than $30,000 live apart from a child, as do 24% of dads with incomes of $30,000 to $49,999.
(The Atlantic) In Iceland, some 67 percent of babies are born to parents who are not married. A combination of generous social programs and a secular society have all but made nuptials obsolete—while giving rise to a unique culture of independent motherhood. Annie Ling spent two months photographing these mothers in the Nordic country, documenting their daily lives and struggles. “A lack of social stigma and a relaxed attitude towards marriage and sexual morality makes raising a family as a single parent in Iceland more feasible,” Ling said. Living in a small community means relatives are often close by and can pitch in on childcare. That doesn’t mean, of course, that independent motherhood is easy. “Despite being recognized as an egalitarian society and the most feminist country in the world, there are still challenges,” Ling said. Iceland has one of the highest gender pay gaps in Europe, which means that female-lead households earn considerably less than those lead by men.
I worked in the prison industrial complex for 34 years. Blacks having abortions reduces Black mass incarceration. Your hidden agenda is the fact that Whites are becoming the new majority-minority by 2043. Why don't you be honest and relate more white babies are needed to offset the aforementioned trend?
Those are your personal narratives, not my words. I'm currently on a long luxury cruise with the passengers probably being 97% white, give or take. I've traveled to over 125 countries in the world experiencing different cultures and cuisines, including Europe. I met some very nice Australians on board who think many American Whites have lost their minds with their strange love affair with Donald Trump and firearms. They used the words "cracker and rednecks" as references. I explained to them that these are derogatory words. There's nothing on record here clearly stating that I think all Whites are racists. I've made references to systematic racism based on economics (measurement). Social integration isn't measurable. Me riding on the bus with Whites or shopping at their business doesn't build wealth or empower me. Talking about horizontal issues like pornography doesn't empower me. People wanting to masturbate on free porn from Pornhub or X-Videos is irrelevant to me. Child molestation, forcible rape, and possession of kiddie porn is a different story. I've done my tenacious duties in the past making sure that these predators (irregardless of race) were off the streets and safely confined.
Parents. The worst possible thing one could give children is human parents. Yet, since we were kicked out of The Garden, it is the next best thing. Government intervention? Why? We fail our children. The younger we are when porn is discovered, the more addictive it is. No one mentioned “addiction.” My father’s file cabinet of porn was found around 7 years old. I am still addicted, having wasted many good hours on the crap, that I could have spent with family or constructive activities. A neighbor kid introduced my oldest at about the same age. Same result. With the other children, the parents were contacted by me before the play dates to make it clear they may not be on the computer, for any reason. Everyone knew why. We paid for any wood/metal/electrical projects, & sports, etc., the youngest wanted, to keep him off the computer. Has he seen porn by now (25)? No doubt. However, he is not addicted, and like John, could really care less about the crap, and appears to have a strong relationship with his fiancé. The oldest appears unable to create relationships.
Interesting bit re: John's students at Columbia: "Is there something different about the way they're having sex than anything that I've known in my life when I was a teenager?"
Yes; it's called hooking up. Sex is hardly new, we can all agree on that. But the way it so casually discussed and dismissed as a relatively recent phenomenon, as if the participants are having a pizza or watching a movie. At the same time, we have the other end of the spectrum, the one where affirmative consent is required for every step in the process. No wonder kids today are often confused if not depressed. In our day, magazines like Teen Vogue were not publishing articles on anal sex and the like; there was no mass movement to sexualize children; and "grooming" referred to one's personal hygiene.
It's hard to imagine how 24-hour access to hard-core porn can be good for the average teenager. Things have come a long way from finding someone's dad's Playboys. At the same time, Glenn makes a good point about prostitution - it, too, falls under the broader heading of "my body, my choice," does it not? It's really quite interesting the things that are okay to do with one's body vs. the things that can land one in jail. If I choose to ingest a substance the govt dislikes, I can be arrested. If a woman chooses to have a dozen abortions, there will be public officials who cheer her on. But if the same woman trades sex for money, she's in the bad category.
As Thomas Sowell is fond of saying - there are no solutions, only tradeoffs. Bans never work. We tried it on booze. We insist on continuing that approach with drugs. And politicians want to do likewise with certain guns. Banning things never works. It just makes those things more dangerous and expensive to acquire. But it also brings the illusion of having done something while, in fact, doing very little. Porn exists because a lot of people consume it, be it free or paid. THERE is your issue. Same as it is with the misuses of any other object or service.
Well this was disappointing. Why would you select a topic upon which you both iterate and reiterate that you know little?
The question you frame here is flawed. You appear to be discussing whether or not it is healthy for children to have visual access to imagery of adults having sex. End of. This is not the central issue and an honest conversation about pornography cannot be had without acknowledging the overarching scenarios of violence, degradation and contempt for females by males that proliferates in today's porn. Women being strangled, spat upon beaten and raped (whether a "performed" rape or not, we aren't sure, but surely even performing a rape is gong to have an impact on the woman being raped in the scene? When you say "someone has something to sell" would the notion of your child selling themselves as a rape receptacle be acceptable to you? If not your kids, why someone else's?
The vast majority of porn depicts women as disposable receptacles for male contempt. Shaping the minds and nervous systems of boys and girls in their formative years with these images is clearly detrimental and there is plenty of evidence if you bother to look.
NB - It still amazes me after 6 decades on this earth, how men have a blind spot for violence against women. I see time and time again, men who are polyvocal public intellectuals who can read, digest and articulate a multitude of perspectives and ideas suddenly "don't know much" when it comes to issues that primarily erode women's safety, such as porn. Last week a 72 year old woman in New Zealand had her skull fractured by a transactivist at an event meant to allow women of any political persuasion to speak. The media has reported the violent swarming by trans activists as a counter demonstration to supposed "fascists" (women are used to these ad-hominem maneuvers that make them scapegoats and therefore open targets for violence). Several men I know, who are NEVER at a loss for an opinion are suddenly uncharacteristically modest; they "don't really know much about it" when it comes to such issues.
It is 2023. There are no longer any excuses for half the population turning its back on the other half, which includes the person who grew you inside her body and brought you into the world. Please do better.
John, the very best gift you could possibly give your daughters is to teach/encourage them to VALUE THEMSELVES highly, as whole human beings (of which sexuality is but one part). A female who values herself will generally find that her views get reflected back by others, like an invisible amulet. Their self value will guide them to avoid relationships with others who don’t treat them as they merit.
Of course, in general, the prevalence of porn commoditizes female sexuality, as Glenn points out, and of course that has a negative impact on the dignity of women in general. OTOH, our society is one In which the entire concept of “dignity” has become largely meaningless. (As an interesting aside, take a look at photos of random people on the streets in the first half of the 20th century -- old photos of Harlem, for example -- virtually everyone looks fabulous and dignified, even if they’re just carrying groceries home. Compare to the way we look today as we go about our daily lives...
Europeans have an extensive history of damaging the minds of black folks (post-traumatic slave syndrome) under the 350 years of brutal white oppressive authoritarianism until the start of the 1960s Civil Rights laws. The American institution of slavery (peculiar institution) separated members of Black families from 1619 through the end of the American Civil War in 1865. Many freed Black slaves desperately searched for their loved ones after the end of slavery. Many left the plantations without land, animals, money, weapons, and government support. You leave out the great white affirmative action programs for poor whites that excluded Blacks: billions of acres of free Indian land issued by the federal government, Indian Removal Act, early welfare programs that discriminated against Blacks (especially Southern state control of allocations under Jim Crow), immigration laws favoring whites, early social security benefits systemically excluding most Blacks who were farm workers and domestic workers (southern whites wanting to preserve their cheap black labor practices), early unions that excluded Blacks workers, early FHA insured mortgages that excluded most Blacks (redlining), etc. Blacks are 200 years behind in wealth accumulation in this country because of slavery and Jim Criw practices. And you want to sit in your white ivory tower based on genocide of indigenous people, black chattel slavery, and structural racism. Compensatory whiteness is sufficient to honestly to address the facts here and arrive at a proactive solution.
According to a CDC National Health Statistics Report, compared to White and Hispanic fathers, Black fathers remain more involved across a range of nurturing and involvement activities like sharing meals, bathing, diapering, dressing, and reading to their children.
(Pew research) Fathers with higher family incomes are much less likely to be living apart from any of their children than are those with lower incomes. Some 15% of fathers with annual family incomes of $50,000 or more live apart from a child, compared with 39% of those with incomes below $30,000 and 38% of those with incomes of $30,000 to $49,999. The pattern holds true when looking only at fathers of young children. Just 5% of fathers with family incomes of $50,000 or more are living away from a child less than 5 years of age. In comparison, some 29% of dads with family incomes of less than $30,000 live apart from a child, as do 24% of dads with incomes of $30,000 to $49,999.
(The Atlantic) In Iceland, some 67 percent of babies are born to parents who are not married. A combination of generous social programs and a secular society have all but made nuptials obsolete—while giving rise to a unique culture of independent motherhood. Annie Ling spent two months photographing these mothers in the Nordic country, documenting their daily lives and struggles. “A lack of social stigma and a relaxed attitude towards marriage and sexual morality makes raising a family as a single parent in Iceland more feasible,” Ling said. Living in a small community means relatives are often close by and can pitch in on childcare. That doesn’t mean, of course, that independent motherhood is easy. “Despite being recognized as an egalitarian society and the most feminist country in the world, there are still challenges,” Ling said. Iceland has one of the highest gender pay gaps in Europe, which means that female-lead households earn considerably less than those lead by men.
I worked in the prison industrial complex for 34 years. Blacks having abortions reduces Black mass incarceration. Your hidden agenda is the fact that Whites are becoming the new majority-minority by 2043. Why don't you be honest and relate more white babies are needed to offset the aforementioned trend?
john mcwhorter: "what is this pornography you speak of?"
Government's role in America is to protect individual rights, including from those who presume to protect them from themselves.
Can you provide verifiable facts to refute my specific contentions?
Specify my arguments you're concerned with and I will provide empirical references and anecdotal experiences.
Those are your personal narratives, not my words. I'm currently on a long luxury cruise with the passengers probably being 97% white, give or take. I've traveled to over 125 countries in the world experiencing different cultures and cuisines, including Europe. I met some very nice Australians on board who think many American Whites have lost their minds with their strange love affair with Donald Trump and firearms. They used the words "cracker and rednecks" as references. I explained to them that these are derogatory words. There's nothing on record here clearly stating that I think all Whites are racists. I've made references to systematic racism based on economics (measurement). Social integration isn't measurable. Me riding on the bus with Whites or shopping at their business doesn't build wealth or empower me. Talking about horizontal issues like pornography doesn't empower me. People wanting to masturbate on free porn from Pornhub or X-Videos is irrelevant to me. Child molestation, forcible rape, and possession of kiddie porn is a different story. I've done my tenacious duties in the past making sure that these predators (irregardless of race) were off the streets and safely confined.
Whites mostly own and control the porn industry. Are you uncomfortable with facts?
Parents. The worst possible thing one could give children is human parents. Yet, since we were kicked out of The Garden, it is the next best thing. Government intervention? Why? We fail our children. The younger we are when porn is discovered, the more addictive it is. No one mentioned “addiction.” My father’s file cabinet of porn was found around 7 years old. I am still addicted, having wasted many good hours on the crap, that I could have spent with family or constructive activities. A neighbor kid introduced my oldest at about the same age. Same result. With the other children, the parents were contacted by me before the play dates to make it clear they may not be on the computer, for any reason. Everyone knew why. We paid for any wood/metal/electrical projects, & sports, etc., the youngest wanted, to keep him off the computer. Has he seen porn by now (25)? No doubt. However, he is not addicted, and like John, could really care less about the crap, and appears to have a strong relationship with his fiancé. The oldest appears unable to create relationships.
Interesting bit re: John's students at Columbia: "Is there something different about the way they're having sex than anything that I've known in my life when I was a teenager?"
Yes; it's called hooking up. Sex is hardly new, we can all agree on that. But the way it so casually discussed and dismissed as a relatively recent phenomenon, as if the participants are having a pizza or watching a movie. At the same time, we have the other end of the spectrum, the one where affirmative consent is required for every step in the process. No wonder kids today are often confused if not depressed. In our day, magazines like Teen Vogue were not publishing articles on anal sex and the like; there was no mass movement to sexualize children; and "grooming" referred to one's personal hygiene.
It's hard to imagine how 24-hour access to hard-core porn can be good for the average teenager. Things have come a long way from finding someone's dad's Playboys. At the same time, Glenn makes a good point about prostitution - it, too, falls under the broader heading of "my body, my choice," does it not? It's really quite interesting the things that are okay to do with one's body vs. the things that can land one in jail. If I choose to ingest a substance the govt dislikes, I can be arrested. If a woman chooses to have a dozen abortions, there will be public officials who cheer her on. But if the same woman trades sex for money, she's in the bad category.
As Thomas Sowell is fond of saying - there are no solutions, only tradeoffs. Bans never work. We tried it on booze. We insist on continuing that approach with drugs. And politicians want to do likewise with certain guns. Banning things never works. It just makes those things more dangerous and expensive to acquire. But it also brings the illusion of having done something while, in fact, doing very little. Porn exists because a lot of people consume it, be it free or paid. THERE is your issue. Same as it is with the misuses of any other object or service.
Well this was disappointing. Why would you select a topic upon which you both iterate and reiterate that you know little?
The question you frame here is flawed. You appear to be discussing whether or not it is healthy for children to have visual access to imagery of adults having sex. End of. This is not the central issue and an honest conversation about pornography cannot be had without acknowledging the overarching scenarios of violence, degradation and contempt for females by males that proliferates in today's porn. Women being strangled, spat upon beaten and raped (whether a "performed" rape or not, we aren't sure, but surely even performing a rape is gong to have an impact on the woman being raped in the scene? When you say "someone has something to sell" would the notion of your child selling themselves as a rape receptacle be acceptable to you? If not your kids, why someone else's?
The vast majority of porn depicts women as disposable receptacles for male contempt. Shaping the minds and nervous systems of boys and girls in their formative years with these images is clearly detrimental and there is plenty of evidence if you bother to look.
https://robertwjensen.org/articles/why-porn-why-this-porn-why-so-little-concern/
https://www.gaildines.com/the-porn-crisis/
https://meghanmurphy.substack.com/p/how-do-you-become-a-psychopath-jon#details
NB - It still amazes me after 6 decades on this earth, how men have a blind spot for violence against women. I see time and time again, men who are polyvocal public intellectuals who can read, digest and articulate a multitude of perspectives and ideas suddenly "don't know much" when it comes to issues that primarily erode women's safety, such as porn. Last week a 72 year old woman in New Zealand had her skull fractured by a transactivist at an event meant to allow women of any political persuasion to speak. The media has reported the violent swarming by trans activists as a counter demonstration to supposed "fascists" (women are used to these ad-hominem maneuvers that make them scapegoats and therefore open targets for violence). Several men I know, who are NEVER at a loss for an opinion are suddenly uncharacteristically modest; they "don't really know much about it" when it comes to such issues.
It is 2023. There are no longer any excuses for half the population turning its back on the other half, which includes the person who grew you inside her body and brought you into the world. Please do better.
John, the very best gift you could possibly give your daughters is to teach/encourage them to VALUE THEMSELVES highly, as whole human beings (of which sexuality is but one part). A female who values herself will generally find that her views get reflected back by others, like an invisible amulet. Their self value will guide them to avoid relationships with others who don’t treat them as they merit.
Of course, in general, the prevalence of porn commoditizes female sexuality, as Glenn points out, and of course that has a negative impact on the dignity of women in general. OTOH, our society is one In which the entire concept of “dignity” has become largely meaningless. (As an interesting aside, take a look at photos of random people on the streets in the first half of the 20th century -- old photos of Harlem, for example -- virtually everyone looks fabulous and dignified, even if they’re just carrying groceries home. Compare to the way we look today as we go about our daily lives...
We have a cultural hesitancy to discussing sex of any kind. This plays a significant role in both pornography and prostitution.