I agree on the point of appropriate "packaging" of a message. I disagree--violently--that this can be characterized as "selling out." To be honest, I don't know what the term actually means and associate it with assholes who have no better argument to make. Simply put, if you have an argument, you don't need to resort to ad hominem attacks. Characterizing your opponent as a "sellout" or using any number of other tried-and-true tools of the knuckle-dragger, means you have no legitimate argument.
Poor babies. Black Conservatives whine about being called sellouts, yet they pile on when Blacks who disagree with the Black Conservative mindset are called DEI. DEI VP Harris kicked Donald Trump’s behind on the debate stage.
Clarence Thomas received gifts from Harlan Crow that he did not disclose. We are told that Thomas is not a grifter, but more honorable than Barack Obama. Pease.
Uncle Tom was a hero willing to protect members of his community from human predators. Sambo was the sellout. If you are called an Uncle Tom, laugh at the ignorance of the person bringing the charge.
JD Vance repeats the lie that Haitians in Springfield, Ohio are eating pets. The defense of Vance offered here is to excuse way the slander. There is no direct confrontation.
Byron Donalds, etc. are called out for policy statements.
Most Blacks do not live in a dystopian world. Unemployment is low. Poverty is low. There are multiple organizations fighting to improve the Black community. This is a glorious time to be young, gifted, and Black or aging and reaping the benefits of a successful Black life. We are not going back.
The worse thing that could happen would be to follow the behavior of modern Conservatives.
Again, compare Barack and Michelle Obama, Kamala Harris, Oprah Winfrey, and Katanji Brown Jackson to Candace Owens, Herschel Walker, Clarence Thomas, etc.
Keep up the good work you do. What the two of you teach and preach holds out more hope for black Americans who have been left behind than what your critics say.
I am surprised in this sellout conversation no one mentioned Kamala Harris. I understand sellout as someone whose opinion and influence ware open for purchase. And that price (whether money or positions of power) can override principles or loyalty to a group. It seems that she is a woman of color willing to completely reverse positions in order to get votes and win office. And, since a large number of the votes she is trying to win is from the white lower and middle class, isn’t she selling out in the classic sense? I hate this term and don’t agree with it. But I was surprised John called out JD Vance when Harris seems much more aligned with the classic definition.
Off topic, but I just read that Amy Wax was suspended with half pay for one year by my alma mater Penn. Although I've had my criticisms of Amy, I don't agree with this particular decision. I'm wondering Glenn if you'll have your good friend Amy Wax on again in the aftermath of this recent news.
I also saw that Amy will be speaking at the upcoming American Renaissance conference, so if this is truly the end of the road as far as her academic career, it seems like she's definitely lined up her post-academia gig.
"[The reprimand letter] also said that she had breached “the requirement that student grades be kept private by publicly speaking about the grades of law students by race, and continuing to do so even after being cautioned by the dean that it was a violation of university policy.”"
I don't think academic freedom/freedom of speech should extend to allowing professors to publicize the grades of their students in contravention of a confidentiality policy.
I agree on the point of appropriate "packaging" of a message. I disagree--violently--that this can be characterized as "selling out." To be honest, I don't know what the term actually means and associate it with assholes who have no better argument to make. Simply put, if you have an argument, you don't need to resort to ad hominem attacks. Characterizing your opponent as a "sellout" or using any number of other tried-and-true tools of the knuckle-dragger, means you have no legitimate argument.
Glenn, you and John are definitely not sellouts! But interesting discussion as usual. Here's information about the Supreme Court justices' salaries.
https://www.ntu.org/foundation/tax-page/salaries-for-members-of-congress-supreme-court-justices-and-the-president
Poor babies. Black Conservatives whine about being called sellouts, yet they pile on when Blacks who disagree with the Black Conservative mindset are called DEI. DEI VP Harris kicked Donald Trump’s behind on the debate stage.
Clarence Thomas received gifts from Harlan Crow that he did not disclose. We are told that Thomas is not a grifter, but more honorable than Barack Obama. Pease.
Uncle Tom was a hero willing to protect members of his community from human predators. Sambo was the sellout. If you are called an Uncle Tom, laugh at the ignorance of the person bringing the charge.
JD Vance repeats the lie that Haitians in Springfield, Ohio are eating pets. The defense of Vance offered here is to excuse way the slander. There is no direct confrontation.
Byron Donalds, etc. are called out for policy statements.
Most Blacks do not live in a dystopian world. Unemployment is low. Poverty is low. There are multiple organizations fighting to improve the Black community. This is a glorious time to be young, gifted, and Black or aging and reaping the benefits of a successful Black life. We are not going back.
The worse thing that could happen would be to follow the behavior of modern Conservatives.
Again, compare Barack and Michelle Obama, Kamala Harris, Oprah Winfrey, and Katanji Brown Jackson to Candace Owens, Herschel Walker, Clarence Thomas, etc.
Keep up the good work you do. What the two of you teach and preach holds out more hope for black Americans who have been left behind than what your critics say.
I am surprised in this sellout conversation no one mentioned Kamala Harris. I understand sellout as someone whose opinion and influence ware open for purchase. And that price (whether money or positions of power) can override principles or loyalty to a group. It seems that she is a woman of color willing to completely reverse positions in order to get votes and win office. And, since a large number of the votes she is trying to win is from the white lower and middle class, isn’t she selling out in the classic sense? I hate this term and don’t agree with it. But I was surprised John called out JD Vance when Harris seems much more aligned with the classic definition.
Off topic, but I just read that Amy Wax was suspended with half pay for one year by my alma mater Penn. Although I've had my criticisms of Amy, I don't agree with this particular decision. I'm wondering Glenn if you'll have your good friend Amy Wax on again in the aftermath of this recent news.
I also saw that Amy will be speaking at the upcoming American Renaissance conference, so if this is truly the end of the road as far as her academic career, it seems like she's definitely lined up her post-academia gig.
There's at least one aspect of the rationale for her suspension that seems potentially reasonable:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/23/us/university-of-pennsylvania-law-school-amy-wax.html
"[The reprimand letter] also said that she had breached “the requirement that student grades be kept private by publicly speaking about the grades of law students by race, and continuing to do so even after being cautioned by the dean that it was a violation of university policy.”"
I don't think academic freedom/freedom of speech should extend to allowing professors to publicize the grades of their students in contravention of a confidentiality policy.
Well, it appears some people have been running in circles for forty years.
Look what the Chinese were able to do in 40 years.
Look what the people in Korea were able to do in 40 years.
Look what the people from Singapore were able to do in 40 years.
Maybe it's time we cut our losses. Evidently some people are just not going to make it, and we're flogging a dead horse.