My residency in Wisconsin provides no special insight about the Kenosha events, except knowledge of a few reporters who have done a more accurate and meaningful analysis. The best that I’ve read is by Dan O’Donnell, an author and WISN (Milwaukee) radio talk show host – https://www.maciverinstitute.com/2021/08/the-lies-that-burned-kenosha/
O’Donnell notes what I heard Gov. Evers say contemporaneously before the violence began: “While we do not have all of the details yet, what we know for certain is that he is not the first Black man or person to have been shot or injured or mercilessly killed at the hands of individuals in law enforcement in our state or our country.”
As O’Donnell notes, perhaps as incendiary, Lt. Gov. Mandela Barns, the state’s highest ranking African-American, opined the next day
“This was not an accident,” Barnes said during a news conference the following day. “This wasn’t bad police work. This felt like some sort of vendetta being taken out on a member of our community. The officer’s deadly actions attempted to take a person’s life in broad daylight.”
Evers’ failure to deploy the National Guard sooner was a failure in the narrow context, but it reflects a “Portland tolerance” for violence by the Left. Mr. Roscoe is silent about this.
Evers failed to respond to a direct assault on the Capitol Building and the Dane County Municipal Building. Thus, in the near-term historical context, Evers failed to protect the Wisconsin Capitol and the Dane County Municipal Building from violence by Left-wing demonstrators! Evers failure to immediately deploy National Guard troops in Kenosha is consistent with his Left-wing “Portland Tolerance Philosophy:”
Still enjoying the time capsule with 8 more minutes to complete and wishing that I had done an audio discussion before the 2008 market crash to compare to today. In the discussion you mention the potential for adoption of African American kids for would-be American parents who otherwise go to Romania, Africa and other outside the USA places. I have also thought about the many kids who languish within the foster care system. I counter that desire that I also have by pointing out that there is something noble and very American in charity relief to distant lands. And of course today there is an added twist of identity violation prison for those who violate present and future identity policy dictates.
I actually just read a woke coworker (I mentally placed in the irretrievable bin) telling another fledgling woke, newly baptized by Robin Di Angelo, to read John's review of her book for valid criticisms around agency (but don't take it as gospel). Truly, the tides never stop turning.
Hey Glenn, I just came across a book you apparently wrote back in 2009, “The Anatomy of Racial Inequality.” Just from reading some of the quotes from it, I get the impression that your perspective seems to have substantially changed about some topics in the book since writing it. Is my impression correct? I’d be curious if you found some passages in that book that you now disagree with and write what has led you to a different view.
I can't tell if you selected this segment to highlight how similar it is to your current topic or if it represents a single train of thought that's lasted 14 years, but it's striking to me how similar you both sound...Glenn your voice changed the most, since you asked. John sounds exactly the same.
That said, I would really love to hear you guys get slightly more technical in your fields. Perhaps, analyzing current topics through your specialized lenses. I've particularly enjoyed seeing Glenn debating with new individuals and think it's a great trend. Being willing and able to grapple with outside views is the best opportunity we have for getting closer to truth and good sense making.
Anyhow, fun listen and good idea digging through the archives! take advantage of your gold!
"Polling done by the Pew Research Center has suggested that among self-identified Democrats, blacks and Latinos are less likely to describe themselves as liberal than whites. Data from this AP/NORC poll comports with Pew’s findings: The majority of blacks say they are moderate (44 percent) or conservative (27 percent), while just 26 percent said that they are liberal."
Why not treat black conservatives the same as non black conservatives?
Why not treat black moderates the same as non black moderates?
Why not treat black liberals the same as non black liberals?
Why "OTHER" blacks?
In general most of these macro labels are largely meaningless. Professor Loury, I interpret you as wanting to maximize human flourishing inside the USA and globally. I also interpret you as dreaming for a trans racial world over the long run without being naive about the short run. An America and world of pathos, meaning and beauty. Please correct me if I am wrong. Or say it in your words.
I think of you as the space upon which your patterns and thoughts are mapped. I think we should be confortable being ourselves. Being "the space". The labels of others is not "the space."
My residency in Wisconsin provides no special insight about the Kenosha events, except knowledge of a few reporters who have done a more accurate and meaningful analysis. The best that I’ve read is by Dan O’Donnell, an author and WISN (Milwaukee) radio talk show host – https://www.maciverinstitute.com/2021/08/the-lies-that-burned-kenosha/
O’Donnell notes what I heard Gov. Evers say contemporaneously before the violence began: “While we do not have all of the details yet, what we know for certain is that he is not the first Black man or person to have been shot or injured or mercilessly killed at the hands of individuals in law enforcement in our state or our country.”
As O’Donnell notes, perhaps as incendiary, Lt. Gov. Mandela Barns, the state’s highest ranking African-American, opined the next day
“This was not an accident,” Barnes said during a news conference the following day. “This wasn’t bad police work. This felt like some sort of vendetta being taken out on a member of our community. The officer’s deadly actions attempted to take a person’s life in broad daylight.”
Evers’ failure to deploy the National Guard sooner was a failure in the narrow context, but it reflects a “Portland tolerance” for violence by the Left. Mr. Roscoe is silent about this.
Gov. Evers failed to deploy the National Guard as the state capitol building came under assault in June of 2020 as “progressive” forces removed the statue of Hans Christian Heg, a Union Abolitionist, from the State Capitol. https://wkow.com/2020/06/24/protesters-pull-down-forward-statue-outside-state-capitol/
Evers failed to respond to a direct assault on the Capitol Building and the Dane County Municipal Building. Thus, in the near-term historical context, Evers failed to protect the Wisconsin Capitol and the Dane County Municipal Building from violence by Left-wing demonstrators! Evers failure to immediately deploy National Guard troops in Kenosha is consistent with his Left-wing “Portland Tolerance Philosophy:”
Thanks for the trip down memory lane... That was a lot of fun to listen to...
Still enjoying the time capsule with 8 more minutes to complete and wishing that I had done an audio discussion before the 2008 market crash to compare to today. In the discussion you mention the potential for adoption of African American kids for would-be American parents who otherwise go to Romania, Africa and other outside the USA places. I have also thought about the many kids who languish within the foster care system. I counter that desire that I also have by pointing out that there is something noble and very American in charity relief to distant lands. And of course today there is an added twist of identity violation prison for those who violate present and future identity policy dictates.
A stopped clock is…, you are funny. Part way through, enjoying thus far as I try to mentally place myself in that year.
I actually just read a woke coworker (I mentally placed in the irretrievable bin) telling another fledgling woke, newly baptized by Robin Di Angelo, to read John's review of her book for valid criticisms around agency (but don't take it as gospel). Truly, the tides never stop turning.
Hey Glenn, I just came across a book you apparently wrote back in 2009, “The Anatomy of Racial Inequality.” Just from reading some of the quotes from it, I get the impression that your perspective seems to have substantially changed about some topics in the book since writing it. Is my impression correct? I’d be curious if you found some passages in that book that you now disagree with and write what has led you to a different view.
I can't tell if you selected this segment to highlight how similar it is to your current topic or if it represents a single train of thought that's lasted 14 years, but it's striking to me how similar you both sound...Glenn your voice changed the most, since you asked. John sounds exactly the same.
That said, I would really love to hear you guys get slightly more technical in your fields. Perhaps, analyzing current topics through your specialized lenses. I've particularly enjoyed seeing Glenn debating with new individuals and think it's a great trend. Being willing and able to grapple with outside views is the best opportunity we have for getting closer to truth and good sense making.
Anyhow, fun listen and good idea digging through the archives! take advantage of your gold!
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-diversity-of-black-political-views/
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/01/17/liberals-make-up-largest-share-of-democratic-voters/
"Polling done by the Pew Research Center has suggested that among self-identified Democrats, blacks and Latinos are less likely to describe themselves as liberal than whites. Data from this AP/NORC poll comports with Pew’s findings: The majority of blacks say they are moderate (44 percent) or conservative (27 percent), while just 26 percent said that they are liberal."
Why not treat black conservatives the same as non black conservatives?
Why not treat black moderates the same as non black moderates?
Why not treat black liberals the same as non black liberals?
Why "OTHER" blacks?
In general most of these macro labels are largely meaningless. Professor Loury, I interpret you as wanting to maximize human flourishing inside the USA and globally. I also interpret you as dreaming for a trans racial world over the long run without being naive about the short run. An America and world of pathos, meaning and beauty. Please correct me if I am wrong. Or say it in your words.
I think of you as the space upon which your patterns and thoughts are mapped. I think we should be confortable being ourselves. Being "the space". The labels of others is not "the space."